QB Higgins’ UH career ends

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It was going to be a great weekend for the Higgins family.

Kaiser head coach Cameron Higgins led the Cougars to an upset of Kahuku. Tayler Higgins set — and served — the Rainbow Wahine to a sweep of Northern Arizona. And quarterback Jeremy Higgins started the second half in the Warriors’ road game against Colorado, completing his first two throws.

But then Jeremy Higgins’ game ended when he landed awkwardly on his left (throwing) hand during a fourth-quarter sack. He stayed in two more plays, but then departed. Preliminary diagnosis was a fracture. After the game, with his hand in a brace, Higgins spoke of mixed emotions. He was proud of his siblings, but disappointed in the Warriors’ loss.

Higgins faces an extensive rehabilitation. His collegiate playing career is over.

He is a fifth-year senior who used a redshirt season when he transferred from Utah State in 2011. Because the injury occurred in UH’s fourth game, he is not eligible for a medical hardship (or second redshirt season).

Higgins is a good player but an even better teammate. He remained upbeat, even after being sent to the scout offense last year. After a strong spring, in which he forced a tie atop the depth chart, Higgins suffered an injury to his Achilles’ heel during the spring game. The injury prevented Higgins from running full speed during the summer, but not not from participating in the conditioning program. During beach workouts, Higgins crab-crawled during drills.


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When Ikaika Woolsey was named the starter, Higgins and Taylor Graham remained supportive. During games, Higgins wore the headset, helping to signal plays.

“We need to be (Woolsey’s) eyes out there,” Higgins said after the Washington game. “We also need to be ready. If we’re not locked in, we’re doing the team a disservice. We have to be there for Ikaika and be ready (to play) at the same time.”


The thing is, Higgins is a competitor who works and studies hard, forcing the coaches to make decisions. It is the much-sought attitude of controlling only what one can control. As a Saint Louis School senior, Higgins started at quarterback. The backup was a promising quarterback named Marcus Mariota. It was the correct decision. At the time, Higgins was the better quarterback.

Now Higgins prepares for the next phase. He will serve as a student assistant.

COMMENTS

  1. UHfan808 September 22, 2014 8:25 am

    😀


  2. UHfan808 September 22, 2014 8:25 am

    Hey, I’m finally first for once in a very long time

    Teehee 😀


  3. NorthShoreFan September 22, 2014 8:30 am

    Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day.

    Heal up Jeremy. Won’t be surprised if I see you in a game later.
    1-3 but those losses could have been wins too. Just a little here and there. Looking for a better record from here on out. TG needs to step up and take over the #2 spot. Got the talent, now just Do It!
    IMUA WARRIORS!


  4. gigi-hawaii September 22, 2014 8:42 am

    That’s really too bad for Higgins. I hope his hand heals properly.
    How will he write answers to essay questions on his mid-term exams?
    Yikes!


  5. gigi-hawaii September 22, 2014 8:45 am

    My RHS 50th class reunion on Saturday went well.
    If you’re interested, see our star quarterback Reid Kimoto’s photo on my blog. Click on my name.
    He was at the reunion.
    Still handsome at 68 years of age.


  6. haka September 22, 2014 8:46 am

    Heal it up Jeremy!
    Go Warriors!


  7. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 8:48 am

    Hate to repeat, but this is what happens when you don’t recruit quarterbacks….. And by recruit, I don’t mean hope someone transfers in because they were the 3rd/4th string QB at another school…

    If Chow gets another year, he might want to look at Kenny Potter from Long Beach City College. But I’m sure we will be all in on Wittek like we were with Graham last year, Woolsey this year…. All eggs in 1 basket is never the right way to go


  8. Hank September 22, 2014 9:01 am

    We’ve really got a lot of mature young men with good character. Hope Jeremy can make it back.


  9. leron September 22, 2014 9:06 am

    Chow did recruit and seemingly had the QB he wanted in Larry Tuileta, who verbaled in April 2013. Then he pulled the signing day stunt. Too bad for Tui. Where is he now? He could’ve been in the mix right now.


  10. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2014 9:14 am

    As it stands, and if Beau Reilly gets into a game this year, this is the 2014 QB situation:
    Senior — Max Wittek
    Junior — Ikaika Woolsey
    Sophomore — Beau Reilly
    Freshmen — Aaron Zwahlen, Eric Prater


  11. oldtimer808 September 22, 2014 9:17 am

    Gee Gigi you and I are the same age. Reid was a pretty good quarterback in the day and his sister was also pretty good looking back in the day.


  12. NorthShoreFan September 22, 2014 9:18 am

    Seems to me there’s a lot of qb’s on the team. How many to enough or too much?


  13. gigi-hawaii September 22, 2014 9:22 am

    oldtimer808,
    Reid Kimura told me that Norm Chow is the same age as us, 68.
    Chow played on the Punahou team opposite Reid.


  14. islandman September 22, 2014 9:22 am

    #10. — You meant for 2015 ?


  15. Turfwar September 22, 2014 9:25 am

    I bet Max is kicking himself for not getting his degree this summer. But hey if he got that close to graduating in three years as SC he must be a heck of a student athlete. Hope he wins the job next year and goes on to find a roster spot in the NFL. Now that would make me a fan of a pro team if the QB is a UH guy.


  16. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 22, 2014 9:25 am

    Hoping for the very best for Higgins.

    Go Bows.


  17. haka September 22, 2014 9:28 am

    Agree with the postings on the QB situation. Losing Tui was a bummer and we definitely have to bring in a contending JC guy next year. As for this year, someone, anyone, has to step up and be the man! If we get solid QB play and the receivers catch the catchable, we can be a very good team. As it stands now, the coaches need to coach’em up the next two weeks. Great time for a bye. We know what we need to work on. Just do it Warriors!


  18. Shoko September 22, 2014 9:28 am

    Good luck to Higgins.


  19. Hank September 22, 2014 9:29 am

    We really miss Joey in the Red Zone.


  20. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 9:34 am

    9. I am talking over the course of 3 years in which he was hired. And please don’t try to convince me that a True FR. was the answer to 2014 season. Because he wouldn’t be the answer. A JC QB and a FR should have been signed from the day he was hired, and each signing day since. Zwahlen looks like he has potential. But he’s not helping the team while on his mission. And doubt he will help the team much as a FR Next season.

    So whats next now? We altered the offense to Ikaika Woolsey and went all in pretty much. Now if Wittek becomes the “new golden child”, are the coaches going to draw up a new Air Raid offense to cater towards him? Because he isn’t a zone read type QB. Our O line has improved a lot so I wouldn’t want to go back to the boring pro style in which QB goes behind Center.


  21. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 9:35 am

    17. Losing Tui has no affect on this season. And it is never good to not have a solid plan B.


  22. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2014 9:37 am

    Tuileta is an even greater loss for the volleyball Warriors.


  23. Stephen Tsai September 22, 2014 9:41 am

    It’s always a nice ideal to stockpile players.
    But it’s not that easy to get guys — each of whom think he should be the guy — to want to enter a crowded position. And it takes a certain temperament to still want to be supportive when you’re not playing.
    As Taylor Swift says: Players want to play, play, play, play, play.
    The key to any JC guy is getting him at mid-year. But those are the most coveted, too.


  24. haka September 22, 2014 9:42 am

    19 Word that. It’s what we all were saying! 🙁
    But every team has to overcome injuries so the guys available just need to find a way to get to the promised land.


  25. mo808 September 22, 2014 9:44 am

    Good morning, folks!

    Healing prayers for Higgins and the rest of the players!


  26. haka September 22, 2014 9:45 am

    21 Never meant for this season. Just as a QB recruit. Is that ok with you?


  27. haka September 22, 2014 9:51 am

    ST, oh yeah, losing him for VB was huge. I had a chance to speak with Coach Wade and although he shrugged it off, he said it was a definite bummer. That being said, Kupono’s grandparents said he is very excited for the upcoming year! Lots of competiton.


  28. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 9:52 am

    Some suggestions to boost this offense:

    1. Get rid of the TE position. Force the defense to play in space more and utilize Harding AND Pedroza in slot at the same time to find easy openings in the middle of the field. Our TEs don’t get open often enough. 4 WRs means less players in the box, which should open up more holes in running game for Lakalaka and Iosefa when he returns. Much rather see DBs trying to tackle them at 2nd level. You can even motion the RB out and call more QB draws if needed. Which would help Woolsey out a lot.

    2. Mix up the routes. DBs sitting on our routes because they it becomes predictable.

    3. Study some Seattle Seahawks film and utilize Ewaliko in motion like Seattle does with Harvin. A lot of simple throws in motion that get your speed guys out in space. Seattle even ran a counter route for Harvin off a bootleg which was unstoppable.

    4. Attack the seam using 2 slots. make opposing LBs and Safeties cover…

    Just my opinion. The TE isn’t helping us at all right now. O line is doing a fine job blocking. Lakalaka good enough to help out.


  29. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 9:52 am

    26. Well this is year 3. I am over playing for the FUTURE..


  30. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 9:57 am

    23. That is key but there is also nothing wrong signing 2 non mid year guys like Greg Alexander and Brent Rausch and having them battle it out with whoever you have returning. Also not sure why the previous 10 seasons, we were able to attract solid walk on QBs like Austin, Moniz, Jantz, etc… Something just isn’t right when you hire a so called offensive minded coach, but you’re not really bringing in “your” guys get the job done. June Jones and Rolo would recruit 3 QBs if needed to get it right. If guys need to transfer, then so be it.


  31. haka September 22, 2014 10:02 am

    29 At what point were they ever playing for the FUTURE?


  32. boolakanaka September 22, 2014 10:05 am

    Leron–he is living the dream: as freshmen at USC, and playing volleyball, see: http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-volley/spec-rel/071114aab.html


  33. tom-warriornation September 22, 2014 10:06 am

    For the first 4 games; our offense is just not clicking; especially in the RED ZONE–we need a spark here BAD; and that can only come from our QB.

    Let’s play all the QB’s for at least one series; and see how each performs under the “LIGHTS” of a real game–some QB’s are simply gamers; and you won’t know who they are until they have a shot!


  34. boolakanaka September 22, 2014 10:07 am

    ST you know Taylor Swift songs??! Always took you for a bruddha more akin to Biggie….http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2Qvuxxnqyg


  35. gigi-hawaii September 22, 2014 10:09 am

    Well, at least Taylor Swift is pretty…


  36. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 10:10 am

    31. Ummm… by not recruiting a QB to help u win now… Remember 2012 season… Our HC converted our fastest and most accurate QB to WR and eventually ran him off the team. It is well documented that lead to multiple transfers who are starting at good football programs now…

    QB is the single most important position of the 3 major college sports. It can be a crap shoot evaluating these guys out of JC or high school. I would rather give myself 3 strikes to get it right vs going all in on 1 swing. This is 2 years in a row where Norm Chow went all in on 1 swing. Last year it was Taylor Graham. He was handed the job before any competition was made available. If you don’t believe me then ask yourself why he is the 3rd string QB now if he so called won the job easily last year. This year, no new QB was brought in to compete and we altered the offense to that QB. The only thing I know of Max Wittek is from what I saw of him on the football field vs Georgia Tech and Hawaii. If we are all in on him too without bringing him competition, it will be a huge mistake repeated again.


  37. tommui September 22, 2014 10:12 am

    GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!

    Not only has TG have to take a lot of snaps in the two weeks before the Rice game, but we better get our no. 3 ready as well.


  38. Old Diver September 22, 2014 10:18 am

    I agree, recruiting players to come to UH is difficult which is why many wanted an offense with caters to smaller faster players than Chows pro-set 8 in the box west coast offense. A shotgun formation does not make it a spread offense. With most high schools running some version of a spread offense Chow is competing with the few universities running a pro-set offense for the few pro-set high school recruits available. Also the spread offense has cut the five year re-building plan down to two or three years. IMO this is Chow’s make or break year.


  39. haka September 22, 2014 10:18 am

    36 I asked myself, “Wasn’t Graham rehabbing during the off season?”.


  40. haka September 22, 2014 10:24 am

    Alright, nice chatting with y’all, but gotta hit the links. Man it’s going to be hot again! Foooooore!

    Go Warriors!


  41. nutmegger September 22, 2014 10:25 am

    Which of the 8 starters that were out due to injuries will be back playing for the Rice game?

    If I recall correctly, hadn’t TG’s completion stats improved just before he was injured?


  42. NotNasti September 22, 2014 10:25 am

    Jeezy, I don’t think you will find many people here that would disagree with you. Would be nice to get some straight answers, wouldn’t it?


  43. Tempmanoa September 22, 2014 10:29 am

    Now we all know why NFLCom rated our quarterback unit, specifically naming Woolsey, Higgins, and Graham, 125 our of the 128 quarterback units they rated. The QB will take time to sort out and fix because we used so much time on Woolsey only to see him slip backwards. QB’s need a good handler to keep them performing at peak, and Wynn is too young and inexperienced to do a good job of this.


  44. gigi-hawaii September 22, 2014 10:29 am

    Why do some of you have to speak in an angry tone of voice?
    It is really despicable.
    These are student athletes, after all.
    As for Norm Chow, it’s too bad he came to UH with no head coaching experience.
    Same with McMackin.


  45. Marleysdad September 22, 2014 10:38 am

    Speaking of quarterbacks, I was having a few cold ones with the Mililani QB coach on Saturday night. He told me not one UH coach has contacted them about Mackenzie Milton, nor have they contacted Mackenzie himself. In fact, no contact with Kalakaua Timoteo or Vavae Malepeai either. Also, word is Jordan Agasiva is just waiting for more offers. This coach says that if they were to package and offer those 3 juniors, chances are GREAT they would stay home.

    Someone better tell Chow to get on it as quite a few pac12 teams are already.


  46. jonj September 22, 2014 10:41 am

    28 to go along with your suggestions to boost offense. I agree with all of them!

    1. Go back to a pistol formation. There’s so much more runs we can do off the pistol rather than the shotgun. Also the RB has more momentum starting off.

    2.Screens and bubble routes. If the team tour playing is stacking 8 in the box get the ball in space and gamble that your guys can make a play! Especially ewaliko!

    3. 3rd and short DO NOT call a counter!! Its a slow developing play and we aren’t great blockers. Either run it straight up or play action, especially when ur RB is tearing it up! Also keep the guy in who is tearing it up.


  47. Warrior4Life September 22, 2014 10:49 am

    gigi-hawaii September 22, 2014 at 10:29 am

    Why do some of you have to speak in an angry tone of voice?
    It is really despicable.
    These are student athletes, after all.
    As for Norm Chow, it’s too bad he came to UH with no head coaching experience.
    Same with McMackin.

    Just curious but who’s angry? How can you tell someone has an angry tone?


  48. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 10:54 am

    for the record, there’s no such thing as a “pro-set offense.” Pro-set is a specific football formation.

    As far as the reason why i laughed and asked “seriously?” to maddog, it was more his statement that moving forward from the rice game, UH will no longer be underdogs. Unless Graham/Woolsey/whoever somehow ascends to quarterback heaven and the receivers start catching balls, UH will most likely be an underdog for every game except maybe UNLV and san jose state.

    Are the games winnable? Sure. But, sorry, but UH is just not a very good football team at all.


  49. letsgowarriors September 22, 2014 10:55 am

    I know the UH coaches love Milton and Malepeai. im assuming the lack of contact is bc Chow & co. are probably worried about their jobs lol. they probably need to win a couple more games before they can even start thinking about 2016 recruiting.


  50. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 11:00 am

    45. Doesn’t surprise me. Not many of our coaches embrace social media as a recruiting tool to build a strong player coach relationship. Getting a commitment is one thing, but even more important, maintaining it up until signing day.


  51. Pete Jek September 22, 2014 11:21 am

    #28 – I agree 100%. The TE at this point is a wasted spot on offense. Should only come in in running situations. Chow should use 4 WR’s so that one of the slots will probably have an advantage/mismatch over a safety or LB. Empty set as well every now and then. Need to spread the offense out more and force defenses to commit an extra defender to the pass so that they don’t stack the box on every play.


  52. 808 September 22, 2014 11:39 am

    UH Warriors will turn this around. The players play hard and their defense will compete. 0-0 in the MWC. I think the best is yet to come for these players. Go Warriors!


  53. al September 22, 2014 11:41 am

    On another note…we should find another punt returner thus giving Harding a breather. Although he is valuable as one who will make the catch on the punt, it takes him out as a slot receiver on first downs.

    Enter ewaliko at pr. He might be more productive as well.

    He is probably more valuable at sb at this point.
    And yes I agree with jeezy about running more 4wr sets.


  54. SC September 22, 2014 11:42 am

    If UH does not win at least 6 games this year, I suspect Coach Chow may likely not be here next season. If that happens, I suspect that Max Wittek and other players may not be here next year.


  55. al September 22, 2014 11:42 am

    Hang in there Jeremy.


  56. al September 22, 2014 11:45 am

    SC…you probably right.
    We should be 3-1 or no worst than 2-2.

    However, dependent upon who the replacement would be should Ben jay pull the plug.

    …just being real


  57. Boolakanaka September 22, 2014 12:01 pm

    ST who you like tonight-Jets v. Bears??


  58. HiFlyer September 22, 2014 12:01 pm

    What time is practice today?


  59. SteveM September 22, 2014 12:08 pm

    Good noonish everyone!

    Best wishes to Jeremy Higgins for a speedy and full recovery!


  60. cocobean September 22, 2014 12:42 pm

    Broken record time……change/tweak the offense not the Qb. The coaches really got to take a look at their formations and personnel groupings and how the defenses have been playing them. In my opinion they got to find a way to open up the middle of the field. The defenses have not shown respect to our outside speed, slot quickness or TEs. They invite us to throw 10-20 yds laterally at or little beyond the line of scrimmage or long down the sidelines. The coaches must do something to get the defense back pedaling rather than sitting on their heels wait to jump routes or close the small windows they leave open.

    I’m not calling for a drastic overhaul of the system. When you look at their plays individually they’re fine. I feel they need to expand their play book to get chunks of yards to go along with what they’ve been doing. Their priority should be to loosen the middle of the D. The area from the TE to L – tackle and back 10 – 15 yards has been like death valley for our passing. It gets even tighter the closer we get to the goal line.
    People have been clamoring for change whether it’s the QB or the offense itself. But who really knows. Maybe the coach’s approach is the best…the way to improve as a team is for everyone to improve individauly at what they’re suppose to do.


  61. letsgowarriors September 22, 2014 12:57 pm

    use ewaliko like seattle uses harvin. or nah? just keep running the ball up the middle and running crappy west coast offense routes.

    http://insidethefilmroom.com/seattle-seahawks-shredded-packer-college-style-spread-offense/


  62. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 1:01 pm

    61. Common sense says so.. easy throw on the roll out that Woolsey is comfortable with… but the bigger question is do our offensive coaches have common sense? I mean he is our fastest weapon.. why not get ewaliko touches in space.. instead of have Donnie king run routes down field and asking our struggling qb to throw to our smallest target.


  63. What??? September 22, 2014 1:10 pm

    What’s the difference between a QB who sat on the bench and transfers in as a Jr and a JC transfer who plays and transfers as a Jr? If the roles were reversed the JC would have been sitting on the bench and the transfer would have been playing. Isn’t it just a matter of getting a good QB regardless of where he comes from?


  64. tom-warriornation September 22, 2014 1:13 pm

    The ticket office just told me that we have 186 Hawaii fans attending this game at the 40 yd line behind our team!

    Come on you last minute people; join us so that we can go over 200; and everyone wear green!

    Plus there will be a kick-ass Hawaiian tailgate put on by the locals there.

    Our team needs your support; more than ever!!!

    Again; the link to buy is:

    The promo code is :Hawaii

    https://oss.ticketmaster.com/aps/rice/EN/link/promotion/home/e39c08d6c93179b006de942fe6f2931f140fd63a


  65. Inyoface September 22, 2014 1:28 pm

    Sometimes you just gotta laugh instead of crying or getting mad.


  66. tom-warriornation September 22, 2014 1:40 pm

    meant this is for the Rice game.


  67. tom-warriornation September 22, 2014 1:42 pm

    A-House’s tour group of 60 is flying to this game and sitting with our 186 Hawaii fans in Section 112 at the 40 yd line. I got a group discount price of $20 instead of the regular $27.


  68. Old School Dave September 22, 2014 2:03 pm

    Ikaika Woosley is out there trying his best. Ease up on the kid. Many locals actiing like he’s Michael Vick or some other NFL QB with all the negative comments I’ve heard and read. That’s part of the problem in that many locals treat UH football like its a pro team. Imagine if that was your kid out there. To me it looks like a case of him trying to fit a round peg into a square hole as instructed by Chow. You can complain about recruiting shortcomings, offensive schemes, poor coaching decisions, whether Chow should be fire, whatever, but its the players that are putting it on the line. There are still 9 more games left in the season – lots of football to be played. The players want to win and need our support (from real fans). Just my two cents.


  69. oldtimer808 September 22, 2014 2:14 pm

    #70 Old School Dave great comment I concur with what you wrote. I too do not like these so called fans who get down on our players. These kids are student/athletes and are working their butts off.


  70. Derek September 22, 2014 2:18 pm

    McKenzie Milton should be offered a scholarship to UH right now. It was reported that California wants him very badly. Yeah, he’s only 5’11” and 155 lbs, but he will get bigger and stronger. He’s only a Junior. What he has in abundance is QB intangibles, a leader, a winner, and football instincts to play the position. His arm will get stronger too and so will he accuracy. He’s still accurate enough now. And of course he has that 4.4-4.6 speed. If you don’t offer now, you risk losing him by this season’s end. WR Noa should have been offered a long time ago.

    There should be at least 5 to 7 QBs on a roster. Once a starter IS ESTABLISHED there is a filtering off where several QBs will transfer out of a program because they want to play and will go somewhere else. When Mariota was named the starter as a redshirt freshman, at least 2 QBs transferred out because they knew the writing on the wall. For Oregon, they got their guy. The more the merrier.
    Everybody gets a shot, best man win. I like JC transfers, especially if their stats were very, very good like Colt or Rolo. I don’t particular like Division I transfers especailly if they were at the bottom of the depth chart and hardly played. That was Taylor Graham. Schroeder hardly ever played at Duke, but he ended up decent. He just wasn’t mobile.

    As for the WRs, they are what they are. The only things they can do is improve their catching skills and run more precise routes. Do the things better to help the team win. Coaches should teach what Steve Largent did. Or even Howard Twilley. They weren’t blazers by any means. Not having top end speed is a cop out in my opinion.


  71. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 2:27 pm

    63. The difference is a JC QB is closest thing to a proven QB you will get. Transfers most likely transfer because they were a 3rd string QB and want to try and get PT somewhere else. They don’t have much game action to evaluate from a D1 stand point. JC ball is a step above high school and you can evaluate a QB based on his performances at a higher level than high school. The transfer has only high school ability to evaluate on vs JC guy has been playing games is the difference. More times than not, you are recruiting a JC guy who is an all conference, all state type kid.


  72. Old School Dave September 22, 2014 2:31 pm

    BTW, I am not a relative nor am I a friend or acquaintance of the Woosley family


  73. Old School Dave September 22, 2014 2:34 pm

    That should be WOOLSEY. Sorry, my bad.


  74. nutmegger September 22, 2014 2:41 pm

    #75 jeezy33 – good point, opened my eyes about JC QBs.


  75. (Jesse)James September 22, 2014 2:46 pm

    Good Afternoon Tsaikos….One game, learn and move on. WE cannot win games when you get to the red zone 4 times…3 of them in the 10 and only come away with 12 points…..

    Anyway, this goes out to all OUR Warriors out there….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myyWXKeBsNk


  76. (Jesse)James September 22, 2014 2:49 pm

    It almost felt like Stanford v. USC. Stanford was in the red zone 9 times…and only came away with 10 points….


  77. (Jesse)James September 22, 2014 2:53 pm

    Tiki….actually, according to the official NCAA record, turnstile attendance at the Northern Iowa game was 21, 750. Still a lot less then the yesteryears of Aloha Stadium but more than 8,000. 🙂


  78. jmor56 September 22, 2014 3:31 pm

    TIKI808 who is Kirk Gouviea ????

    If you are talking about KURT GOUVEIA he won 2 high school championships (Waianae HS), 1 national championship (BYU) and 2 super bowls (Washington Redskins).

    If you are going to troll at least get your facts straight LOL


  79. cocobean September 22, 2014 3:37 pm

    #70. OSDave. That’s a reasonable outlook buts what’s reasonable about FANatics?
    The opinions here run the gamut of all things things you mentioned plus your own. That’s why I like this board. Everyone here is a “true fan” in their own minds and express their fandomness in their own unique way.

    If you walk around the stadium you hear pretty much that same things you read here….”fire the coach,” “he needs more time, we’re getting there,” “change the QB, bring in_______,” “we need to pass more,” “we need to run more,” “give the boys a break they’re playing hard,” “the offense sucks.” etc.


  80. cocobean September 22, 2014 3:44 pm

    Tiki how did you get a picture of your brain scan for your avatar? My doc let me see mine but wouldn’t give me a copy of it. You must have a way with words you can be very convincing.

    just fun’in with you.


  81. Kaimuki Kid September 22, 2014 3:46 pm

    All this negative emotion, the kids are not getting paid to play per say. They are trYing very hard, they don’t give up.
    We are close, we just need to learn how to win


  82. Kaimuki Kid September 22, 2014 3:50 pm

    And not let up when we get a lead. All I’m hearing is wah, wah, wah….


  83. kawika49 September 22, 2014 4:08 pm

    As an instructor, we worked to enhance positive results, and drill those; that were less than optimal. So that they would do rather than think. Half a step, is a big step. This team is getting there.


  84. Boolakanaka September 22, 2014 4:10 pm

    And Ola is no taller than 6’1 or so, maybe 230 at his playing weight.


  85. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 4:17 pm

    http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/14-09-21-uconn-drive-chart.png?w=694

    at least UH isn’t alone in its offensive ineptitude.


  86. NorthShoreFan September 22, 2014 4:26 pm

    JJ…#81…yup we wuz just and inch away, half sec behind etc….but we getting there.


  87. kawika49 September 22, 2014 4:29 pm

    Prong , it not an offensive effort; it is a commitment effort. Catch first move after. Harding should be a catching coachassistant.


  88. NorthShoreFan September 22, 2014 4:30 pm

    inre…contacting prospective recruits. anyone knows what the rules are regarding making contact with potential recruits? I’ve heard stuff like boosters/coaches can’t contact, contact is supposed to e limited etc…if anyone knows what the rules are, it could be some of these programs are violating. If you have the proof, let the UH admin. know. We might be able to ding these poachers….imho.


  89. kawika49 September 22, 2014 4:32 pm

    After all is said and done; these young men are not doing this to fail. Let us find I way to help them on their quest. Prongs, these are young me ; they need your support, rather than derision.


  90. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 4:35 pm

    cocobean: it kinda goes like this. if you point out that a player isn’t very good, “THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT NO MATTER WHAT! WHAT’S WRONG WITH YOU GUYS???”

    I get that they’re not professionals (although norm chow is). But they’re also not high school kids either. It’s not like people are personally attacking, say, woolsey, when they say that his stats are terrible, his throws were inaccurate, and maybe there should be a quarterback change. But people here construe it that way because they’re drinking the NCAA “student-athlete” kool-aid. Or they’re projecting fatherly feelings on the players or something.

    They’re students, yes, even though the UH football graduation rate is 38%-40%. go norm chow! doing things the right way! which, btw, why isn’t there more press about the abysmally low graduation rate? for all the heat florida state is taking over jameis winston, their graduation rates are significantly higher than UH’s. So we have a losing football team that doesn’t graduate its players. Does anyone not see a problem with this?

    They’re athletes, sure. But they’re not high school kids. They’re adults, getting a scholarship to play for a major Division I university in a sport where football is BIG business. You could actually argue that they’re exploited employees of UH (and the 38-40% graduation rate of its players kind of implies that UH doesn’t really give a crap about its football players as students more than they do about them as employees). but that’s a different discussion.

    but different viewpoints are interesting and fun to read.

    it seems that the only thing that’s welcome here by some people is “yay! go UH! stop being negative and ‘angry.’ we believe! WE BELIEVE! OH GOD, MAKE ME BELIEVE!!!!”

    and if you don’t, then you’re not a “real fan” or whatever.

    it’s weird and kind of entertaining. but, hey, all the complaints and “negativity” would go away if UH was actually a good team that won games consistently that put a good product out on the field and played and entertaining brand of football.

    But they’re not.


  91. BigFan September 22, 2014 4:35 pm

    Is Tiki808 a ChickenGrease alias? He hasn’t posted in a while and maybe he is offended again.


  92. kawika49 September 22, 2014 4:36 pm

    sb, young men rather than…


  93. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 4:42 pm

    but kawika49, to answer your question, yeah. if people are getting personal with the players, then of course, not good. at ANY level. even with the pros (although the pros can wipe their tears with their hundreds of thousands of dollar bills). I watch the games. I root for them to win. Then they don’t. The fact that every single one of the UH quarterbacks seemed to have not developed since year 1 of the chow regime is more an indictment on norm chow and his coaching staff than it is with the individual players themselves.

    I’m not trying to hop on the june jones bandwagon, but I would bet money that JJ could turn taylor graham or any of the qbs on the roster into competent division I quarterbacks.


  94. What??? September 22, 2014 4:46 pm

    Jezzy I disagree that not recruiting any QBs is the sole reason there is a problem. Chow could have recruited six of them and it still could be a problem. Graham could have played lights out for the last year and no one would be complaining. Chow could be running a different offense and it would not be a problem. The bottom line is that there is a QB problem, there’s more thank one reason, we know your opinion on it, nuff already.


  95. Turfwar September 22, 2014 4:54 pm

    So Sean Schroeder did not develop in his time here 4prong?


  96. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 4:55 pm

    turfwar: i’m talking about the quarterbacks playing now. I probably didn’t make that clear, so that’s my bad.


  97. ai-eee-soos September 22, 2014 5:01 pm

    Higgins out for the year …

    University of Hawaii quarterback Jeremy Higgins will miss the remainder of the season with a fracture in his (left) throwing hand he suffered in the fourth quarter of Saturday’s game at Colorado.

    “It’s really a tough deal and we feel really badly for Jeremy,” head coach Norm Chow said. “He’s the consummate teammate and team leader who worked really hard in his career to get where he’s at.

    *** It’s very unfortunate, but Jeremy will still be around the team, serving as a student assistant. He wants to get into coaching and this will be a good start for his career.” ***

    Higgins replaced starter Ikaika Woolsey to start the second half against the Buffaloes. He finished the game 4-for-17 for 66 yards. Over his three-year career at UH, he appeared in nine games, with one start, and completed 41-of-82 attempts for 489 yards and one touchdown. He also rushed for one touchdown in 2012.

    A 2010 graduate of Saint Louis School in Honolulu, Higgins attended Utah State for one year and appeared briefly in two games as a true freshman before transferring to UH.


  98. Boolakanaka September 22, 2014 5:02 pm

    Salas just had a very nice grab….


  99. cocobean September 22, 2014 5:02 pm

    #94. I knew you were more articulate than how you’ve posted. I know you know there were more than 8k at the last home game and KG is not 6’5. Many of your posts can be termed nonsensical, the real ? is why you post that way.

    My guess is you’re on the SA staff. Is part of your job to post things that will draw responses? Me,I like you. My friends often accuse me of being too nonsensical at times.


  100. ai-eee-soos September 22, 2014 5:04 pm

    The United States and partner nations launched their first airstrikes against Islamic State militants in Syria.

    posted over an hour ago on SA news.


  101. al September 22, 2014 5:07 pm

    Quite a number of similarities between the warriors and jets today. Oh, including the green and white uniforms.


  102. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 5:09 pm

    104. Key word… Could… But when you have a bunch of walk ons and past regime QBs, you aren’t giving yourself a good chance to succeed offensively. We should be scouting and evaluating accurate throwing QBs… Not 50% completion rate QBs. Even with Wittek, there is a reason he transferred. If he were playing, he would not have left. While I like the addition, it would be foolish to hand him to keys to the offense without bringing in legitimate competition.


  103. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 5:14 pm

    jeezy: i disagree about the whole “transfers mean that they suck” argument you have. The reason why the qb can’t get playing time may not necessarily mean that he sucks and can’t hack it as a starter for ANY school. it’s not that black and white. You can definitely be good enough to start for a mid major program (or a major one) and be stuck on the bench behind another quarterback just becuase the quarterback is that good or the team/offense isn’t the right fit. I don’t understand your hate for transfer players. I suspect most college coaches wouldn’t understand either.


  104. AllG September 22, 2014 5:16 pm

    104…It is not the sole reason but it is the main reason. If you are a coach putting in a new offense the main thing you need is a QB who can run your offense and he never recruited one. Makes no sense! I was hugely disappointed that he did not recruit a JC after last year. We saw all out QBs play last year and it was pretty obvious that none of them was the answer. What did Chow do he brought in a Freshman QB who hasn’t played football in 2 years. We were doomed from the beginning. Everyone said we couldn’t afford to fire Chow last year. Well after our attendance is gonna drop below 20,000 for the rest of the season like I said last year we can’t afford to keep him. People would come to the games if we put out a good product, but we have the nations most boring offense. I am surprised we get as many people to come as we do. Changes need to be made before it gets worse!


  105. kawika49 September 22, 2014 5:20 pm

    Prong. you are right. the question is; are they improving. How ever, have you been in that position before. All I am asking is context. Out of 82 young men you are coaching, you have an interesting, mix of 70 times 3 of interesting situations.


  106. AllG September 22, 2014 5:20 pm

    115… I don’t think anyone thinks transfers suck. All transfers are welcome additions as long as they can play. But you can’t count on transfers because you have no control over what position or player you will get as a transfer. You can control who and what position you recruit


  107. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 5:24 pm

    115. Are you putting words in my mouth?


  108. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 5:27 pm

    All I said was you have nothing to evaluate with transfers besides high school tape. A lot can change from high school and in college. JC kids you have game tape at a pretty high level.


  109. Turfwar September 22, 2014 5:32 pm

    Speaking of QB’s people need to see St. Louis QB Tua Tagovailoa play this year. He is an amazing talent. Saturday was only the second or third start of his varsity career but I will already go on record as saying this kid will be the greatest passing talent in the history of Hawaii prep football. And I’ve been a fan of prep football since watching Charlie Wedemeyer with my dad. This kid makes throws I haven’t seen since Colt played. He would start for UH right now. And it’s not close. Before anyone questions my sanity go and see for yourself. Because if you wait till his senior year he will probably already be committed to Oregon and the comparisons will start. Oh and by the way Tua will kill you with his feet too as he runs with speed and power. Sometimes he crushes a would be tackler. It would be a dream if wears a Warrior uniform one day but when his game gets out on video it will only be a matter of time before the Power Schools are recruiting him heavily. I had heard about him last summer but with a two year starter returning I didn’t take it seriously. But he’s a guy who’s actually better than advertised. Kamehameha’s top DB Kane was taken out with an apparent cheap shot with the offending player being tossed from the game but with his accuracy I’m not sure how much of a difference it would have made. Hope Kane gets back this season as it looked like he suffered a possible concussion. But make the effort to see Tua play this year. Kid is a rare talent and with such a short season for ILH teams their season could end after only six or seven games.


  110. AllG September 22, 2014 5:33 pm

    Big catch for Greg Salas!


  111. Boolakanaka September 22, 2014 5:34 pm

    Salas another nice grab…


  112. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 5:36 pm

    kawika49: that’s the question, isn’t it? is there ACTUAL signs of progress with the team? The defense seems competent. the o-line MUCH improved. Definitely on paper, the recruiting seems better (unless the star advertiser is just hyping every new signing), but the product put on the field is still terrible. The quarterback play is just flat out terrible, whether that’s coaching, inferior talent, poor play calling, a combination of all three, whatever, it’s pretty terrible. We don’t even graduate our players from school anywhere near the national average for football teams.

    Is the team exciting to watch on the field? Is there a coherent offensive philosophy and team identity? Is there anything UH does well aside from punt?

    So let’s take June Jones: when june jones burst on the scene in 1999, he flat out stated that his philosophy is the run and shoot. not run and shoot concepts that all NFL and most college teams use, but the full blown run and shoot. shotgun, 4 wide receivers. choice, go, switch, and so on. he said that hawaii will throw the football. They will play an exciting brand of football, their identity is aggressive high scoring offenses, etc etc. He rebranded the UH logo, the mascot, the music played in the stadium, even the team name, because he wanted to transform UH. He stated that he wanted to be “the miami of the pacific.” He understood that hawaii had a more professional-type fan base than a college one, so the team was pretty candid and open to the press. To my knowledge, JJ didn’t kick out Dave Reardon because he took offense at his columns.

    if you’re familiar with how howard shnellenberger turned around Miami University from incompetent football team to a national powerhouse, it’s almost as if JJ was copying shnellenberger’s formula to a T.

    So UH football had an identity. They did what they did and they did it well. Even during the down years, they still executed their offense, the product on the field was still exciting in year 3, and UH transformed into a solid mid major program that would ocassionally crack the top 25.

    Now. Compare this to norm chow and what’s going on with the UH football program now. can we say the same things? what about this: does UH football even have an identity right now? What exactly do they do well?


  113. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 5:41 pm

    jeezy: it just seems you’re very hostile to transfer quarterbacks. i’m pretty sure you’ve stated this a lot. even your last statement that there’s a reason why wittek is on the bench, and etc etc. JC transfers are, of course, valuable, but there are also successful backup quarterbacks who transfer between schools and are successful/serviceable. there are different ways to evaluate quarterbacks aside from exclusively game film.


  114. Shoko September 22, 2014 5:45 pm

    I think part of the problem is the staff has issues with evaluating and developing quarterbacks.


  115. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 5:51 pm

    128. I’m not hostile at all. I said you can’t put all your eggs in 1 basket with them. Transfers have to sit out 1 year. So that year he is sitting out, you still have to bring in competition. JC transfers are valuable because they played football the year you recruit them, and most times, you are going to recruit a guy who is playing in a system similar to you. They come in and help you right away, versus a transfer helps u for 1 season after sitting out a season. You can’t evaluate a transfer while they are riding the pine at another school. It’s not black and white either. If the back up for Baylor wanted to transfer because Bryce Petty is legit and he can’t get on the field with him there, thats a big difference than getting a 4th stringer or a back up from a school where the QB situation is a mess.


  116. kawika49 September 22, 2014 6:01 pm

    4 Pr0n, you too good. All I can see is the improvement. Maybe , I am jaded; but, the improvement in conditioning assignments. lack of penalties; give me hope. Despite your vitriol, we are going in the right direction


  117. 4-Prong September 22, 2014 6:04 pm

    jeezy: thanks for clarifying.


  118. NorthShoreFan September 22, 2014 6:12 pm

    wow….


  119. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 6:14 pm

    I also want to note that Max Wittek is walking on if I recall. So he isn’t really a recruit. He contacted Hawaii. I am sure he can earn a scholarship next year if he wins the QB job though.


  120. Ipu Man September 22, 2014 6:25 pm

    Jeremy, make lemonade.
    UH coaches. You, too.
    Players. Add Hawaiian Punch.
    🙂


  121. champ September 22, 2014 7:01 pm

    Yeah, Lynn Kimoto was Miss Smile USA I believe. And very attractive!


  122. champ September 22, 2014 7:15 pm

    Hire Jeezy for HC. tells it like it is. Doesnt David Graves have a year left. Our current HC, like Jeezy said, ran him out of town. I tell you what THAT REALLY PISSED ME OFF! DG I thought was an excellent Moniz type QB, and he could run. Jeezy should have said bring back “The Run n Shoot”. I had nuff already!! S–T!


  123. jm2375 September 22, 2014 7:33 pm

    Howzit!

    To all of you getting your underwear in a bunch, all I have to say is: Chill! It’s only a game, it’s entertainment. There are more important things in life to worry about.

    The players come to UH to 1) get an education and 2) play a game they love. Non-scholarship & partial scholarship athletes spend just as much time in the classroom, in practice, in competition, on the road, etc as those receiving full scholarships, and then go to their part-time jobs to help finance their educations. We all know about Bryant Moniz, but did you know that former MVB setter, Nejc Zemjlak had a part-time job at Chef Mavro AND did his TIM internship at the same time DURING the season?


  124. jm2375 September 22, 2014 7:36 pm

    Best wishes and fast healing to Mr. Higgins.


  125. kev-1 September 22, 2014 7:46 pm

    I am glad that Higgins will be given the opportunity to stick around and begin pursuing his coaching interest with some assistant work. He will make something of himself for sure.


  126. RainbowCliff September 22, 2014 8:28 pm

    The viewing service for Gary Allen’s Mother was just a large room of wonderful people who came out to share their deepest respect for this humble young man who with out a doubt put UH football on the map in the mid 70’s and early 80’s.

    Former players from his days showed up lifting #26 with nothing but warm hugs and appreciation to a guy who not only acknowledged him for his football fame but who he is as a genuine good person. Relatives, friends, teachers, coaches, clergy men, city officials, co-workers all turned out paying their deepest respect. I was the first to arrived as I reached out to Gary with a LARGE hug as he just held on to me with so much appreciation as I felt his love through out his entire body for my sincere efforts representing UH. Presented him the floral pot for his mom as he wept with so much thanks as I wrote in the card the many fans from Tsaiko Nation who acknowledged their condolences to the passing of his mother as his smile just broaden as I described each and every one of you to him. A SURREAL moment that I will never forget !

    The cross with Corinthians 13: 4-8 “Love is patient, Love is kind” he placed in his mothers coffin with a farewell kiss that brought myself and my wife Rhonda to some tears as we both had to step out just for a moment to regain our composure. The Mothers poem he kept in his hand greeting so many people of different cultures and faces as they just kept coming from all areas of Los Angeles, San Bernadino County, West Covina and Las Vegas. Mahalo Kawika49 for your generous donation as I was able to purchase the extra items for truly an appreciated Rainbow Warrior who did MAGIC running the football for Hawaii 1977-81.

    Bows that was present Larsen Lee, Frank Strong, Tim Lyons, David Toloumu , Steve Lehor, Bernard Quarrels, James Bethea, Ricki Bass, Nicky Clark and myself.

    On behalf of Gary Allen he wanted me to tell you folks thank you for your sympathy and kind words to his mother Vivian. His mom was everything cooking for his teammates and offering them a bed when he would come home to Los Angeles. Mother Allen cooked a GREAT peach pie which was famous all over the county line and drove Gary to all his football games including pop warner, middle school and high school. The viewing service just showed how much she was love and appreciated with so many relatives coming from far as Ohio expressing their condolences and appreciation to a remarkable lady.

    Mrs. Vivian Allen may she always rest in eternal peace !


  127. champ September 22, 2014 8:35 pm

    I always comment at the end but face it guys, my alma mater does not have enough TALENT!!!! End of story. Im sure the staff has been trying but something is not working with the recruiting. As a result the HC has to take the brunt of criticism. His fault and no one elses.


  128. C-Pop September 22, 2014 8:36 pm

    Champ – you been hit one to many times – you are delusional!


  129. Kaimuki Kid September 22, 2014 8:46 pm

    Now we got someone talking bubbles beside the wah, wah, wah. Please cool it. It us just a game not life and death.
    Try to enjoy the effort, we kind of hit your point, you don’t have to repeat and repeat. It’s a game, just entertaiment. Back to lurking…


  130. Kaimuki Kid September 22, 2014 8:47 pm

    Not hit, got your point


  131. C-Pop September 22, 2014 8:50 pm

    4-prong – TERRIBLE – you can’t say that about this team bottom line- much much improved over last year against superior competition – Defense adjustments, and Special teams so consistently good vs PAC-12 competition. Offense is 1 demensional due to inconsistent QB play, change should be made, will it improve O big doubt in my mind, but hope it can jump start O.


  132. jm2375 September 22, 2014 8:55 pm

    Sean Shigematsu is from Kapaa.


  133. tom September 22, 2014 9:17 pm

    #140 Steve Lakalaka is from that school whose name must not be spoken.


  134. jeezy33 September 22, 2014 10:29 pm

    122. I can’t coach for crap. But evaluating what we do right and what we do wrong is pretty simple when you pay attention to successful teams and see what they do. Just look what Boise has done, or what Colorado St. has done since they hired McElwain. It’s a lot of common sense stuff. HC doesn’t need to be the smartest guy. He just has to be a competent leader with good assistant coaches.

    When you watch Inside Access every week and you hear Coach Chow say the same thing about mistakes, it kind of tells you your identity. Almost isn’t good enough.


  135. SteveM September 22, 2014 10:56 pm

    Wow… around 30 posts suddenly disappeared on the refresh and the trades are returning. Tomorrow’s forecast looks good. 🙂


  136. kapakahi September 22, 2014 11:07 pm

    Turfwar,

    Gotta agree with you about Tua. The kid is special.

    If Tua bulks up over the next 2 seasons…….he might end as a RB in college……like Joey Iosefa.


  137. UHfan808 September 23, 2014 12:26 am

    All day I didn’t have a chance to say good morning 🙁

    Good evening, Tsai-kos!

    Thanks for the story today, ST!

    Heal up well and good, Jeremy Higgins!

    Maybe you have to do the Greg Salas exercises he did for his hand injury. I remember reading here on WB that Greg had done lots of hand exercises and was able to return to play much sooner than expected.


  138. DaveLetterMan September 23, 2014 5:11 am

    jeezy33 September 22, 2014 at 10:29 pm
    122. I can’t coach for crap. But evaluating what we do right and what we do wrong is pretty simple when you pay attention to successful teams…

    LOL, typical armchair qb, backseat driver, etc


  139. UHfan808 September 23, 2014 7:20 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos!

    Oh my so much angst.

    Say the truth if you must but without hurting ppl’s feelings, please.

    WB is not a dumping ground for emotions just because we can’t see you.


  140. cocobean September 23, 2014 7:30 am

    Bad form Jeez.


  141. haka September 23, 2014 7:37 am

    Like the pot calling the weed illegal.


  142. jeezy33 September 23, 2014 7:38 am

    Just funny how some fans only want to hear “positive thoughts” even though their football team continues to make the same mistakes over and over and over, year after year. If you point out anything negative, you’re an arm chair QB. If you predict a win every single week, then you are the man!


  143. haka September 23, 2014 7:41 am

    143 It’s not the message it’s the messenger.


  144. haka September 23, 2014 7:42 am

    Sometimes you rub people the wrong way.


  145. UHfan808 September 23, 2014 7:44 am

    143

    You are missing the whole point

    Entirely


  146. jeezy33 September 23, 2014 7:50 am

    Well fortunately for me, I don’t need fans approval to state an opinion… This is a blog. I don’t rip players personally saying they suck. Coaches get paid enough to know whey they signed up for. So yes, I will rip a coach for making bad decisions. So be it. I’m sure every one on this blog has friends who complain. I see it everywhere. People can say what they want, but college football is a business period. It cost $50 per ticket to attend a game. So whats the difference if a Yelper goes to a restaurant where it cost $50 a head and complained about the food they got? Because Norm Chow is a legend or something?


  147. haka September 23, 2014 7:51 am

    If people can say what they want then why call 138 a douche bag?


  148. jeezy33 September 23, 2014 7:54 am

    Terms of Service :An insightful discussion of ideas and viewpoints is encouraged, but comments must be civil and in good taste, with no personal attacks.

    Looks like I’m following the terms of service.. Sorry if you don’t like me. Not here to make new friends and join a club.


  149. DaveLetterMan September 23, 2014 7:55 am

    Morning Tsaikos!
    Sorry for starting an uproar this morning. This site has become too serious and I long for the “old” days where we’d say our frustrations after a loss or gloat after a win and move on to what’s for lunch or when’s the next cattle call. Now we linger on the same issues about what’s wrong with the coaches or players even after win.


  150. 4-Prong September 23, 2014 7:56 am

    jeezy: to be honest, people probably aren’t upset at you for expressing your opinion. I express my opinion and it doesn’t seem like people are mad at me. It’s the way in which you express it, including acting like an expert/know it all in all things football, down to detailed player evaluations, but then admitting that you can’t coach.

    tone and presentation and credibility of the speaker is important for whoever your audience is. Just because you may be “right” doesn’t necessarily make you right. That’s probably what people are responding to.


  151. Stephen Tsai September 23, 2014 7:56 am

    Ding, ding, ding.
    New post is up.
    Here’s the link: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=23988
    (By the way, no naughty words. There will be deletions. Thanks.)


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