Hitting the break
After Saturday’s 21-12 loss to Colorado, ending the Pac-12 tour at 0-3, the Warriors head into their first break with next weekend’s bye.
Despite numerous injuries — linebacker Tevita Lataimua, safety Trayvon Henderson and nickel corner Nick Nelson did not play against Colorado — the defense has played well in the first four games. On Saturday, the defense did not allow a second-half point. But defensive coordinator Kevin Clune said his defense needs to avoid lapses, such as second-quarter touchdowns on a fly sweep and by a fullback left uncovered in the flat.
“We have to have 60 straight minutes of focused football,” Clune said. “And we can’t give any freebies out there. That’s our deal.”
The offense will need to regroup for the Oct. 4 road game against Rice. Most pressing is the quarterback situation. Jeremy Higgins, who started the second half in place of Ikaika Woolsey, was initially diagnosed with a fracture in his left (throwing) hand. Taylor Graham was the third QB on the 64-player travel roster. Will freshmen Beau Reilly or Eric Prater need to be promoted to third quarter in Higgins’ absence?
The Warriors will have an extra week to get healthier, and figure out plans for the Rice game and then the opening of MWC competition.
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What does Stephen Tsai think about our offense and Norm Chow? Our defense is much improved but it is sad watching our vanilla offense kick field goals.
I don’t like bye weeks due to the break in the action, but in this case we really need it.
Heal up Warriors!
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Asking on game day morning (like yesterday) if there are any Tsai-ko get-togethers probably won’t get a reply as the attendees are too busy partying if there is one.. or two.
I think even though Graham threw that pick at the end he should start the game against Rice. He’s 6’5″ so he can see over the lineman and not have to rollout all the time to find someone open. With that he can throw the ball as soon as he gets it to a slant receiver and go for the home run balls if the receiver has a step on the DBs.
I think the O line is better this year and can give Graham time to throw. Yes he is not as mobile as Woolsey or Higgins but he can sling it before they can get to him.
GO WARRIORS !!!
How did TG go from comparisons to Carson Palmer early last year to 3rd string this year?
well, I did say that graham would surface. what he brings is a quicker release, zip on the ball, and hopefully in time better accuracy. Now, if he can pick up his reads sooner he’ll be all right.
Reilly or prater. Both have been away from the game. Who can step up sooner will become number 3 obviously.
Right now “we need a hero” as in a qb.
I need to go to the well and start folding in the freshmen wr’s.
We also should get unga and manoa in at te.
Moleni’s a tough guy and all but we need that position to catch the ball.
So, by now some of last years pundits are missing Schroeder and Clark.
Too bad kirkwood made a family decision to return home.
Too bad Haynes got injured.
Too bad bowens became impatient and left.
Too bad we didn’t pick up a jc qb or two.
Too bad we didn’t pick up more tight ends.
Too bad we didn’t take a rb.
Too bad we are still a step or two too slow.
Just asking…tg was hurting through the summer, never got to practice until fall. By then chow was committed to woolsley.
Woolsey
Played well enough to win
Off week will alow time to heal, need all those players back
Pac 12 Network announcers were even handed and complimentary regarding UH
Woolsey is pressing and it shows. Calm down, will lead to improvement
Dropped passes played big role today. Catch the ball first. Trying too hard
Rice lost to Old Dominion. First CUSA win and just came up a level.
Goal line package needs “jumbo” effect double tight and bigs in the backfield!
More speed on the field—Stay positive no matter what….Go Warriors!!!!
Fans of the program never desert—-Go to the Wyoming game!!!
SDSU got sliced and diced by OSU—
Hawaii – Colorado Post-game conference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYW5tUBQ2Kw&list=UUIdMh3LfMj9yEjM6t3B6m6A&index=1
Looks like Max Wittek made the right decision to walk on. He get chance next year to start. Too bad he wasn’t able to play right away.
Good morning sat after game day, Tsai-kos!
Ahhh…such a tough game yesterday. Hope the Warriors are okay. Heal up good and ready. I am proud of you for your never-give-up-spirit especially at the end of the game 🙂
Definitely our guys worked hard all game long
I think it’s more of a mental thing. Trick must be to try make it fun and exciting and think can do always and for everything.
The Defense and Special Teams were awesome
The odda team neva score as much as they wanted to
especially at the second half
hehehehe
The Offense just needed to hold more for our QBs
And our QBs and receiving guys just needed to complete a bit more often
Maybe just maybe just gotta work on anticipating traffic throws and how long the odda team’s d gonna take to get where we are
Must be like anticipating traffic conditions on the freeway and knowing how long going take for the other car to your left or right for either pass or stay slow and what you gotta do to either pass or slow down
Idk…
Anyway, I still stay all tired and going back sleep again 😛
Have a nice day after game day, everybody 🙂 Play nice, please 🙂
With the uproar about conservative play calling last week, I can imagine something similar if Coach sticks with Woolsey. For Woolsey’s sake, I think Graham needs to start at Rice.
Btw,
ST, Is this your Sunday post
Or will there be another one for Sunday day, too?
Hehe
Aloha all! A couple of starting points: yet, another disappointing win with missed opportunities; yet, we have positives to build upon; and next week, is next week-e.g we still have a chance for a respectable season.
The D and special teams, and attitude of the team are the strength of the team. Conversely, QB/WR and corner play are not at levels that are acceptable. My worst fear, that is to say, corner play, proving, at least to this point of the season, to be true. Consistent big plays being perpetuated- even when they play a man/bail technique, they are getting beat.
As for QB, the biggest thing that comes to mind, is not merely the mis-execution, but lack of being a solid game manager. Specifically, being cognizant of down and distance, what a specifically play is meant to produce, time management…etc
Let’s hope this is a very productive two weeks…as I still believe they can beat Rice.
Will be interesting to see who Chow calls up.
Two players that haven’t seen the field in a long time and haven’t had their heads in the playbook for very long either.
Pretty grim picture for Chow to be put in this position.
Just boggles the mind how a coach with so much experience can struggle in choosing quarterbacks in fall camp, and then is faced with uncertainty at the position later in the season.
Anyway, Rice lost their starting dual-threat quarterback, Driphus Jackson, to a dislocated shoulder during the first half of the Old Dominion game along with three defensive players who didn’t finish the game. Jackson’s replacement is 6’5″pocket passer Tyler Stehling who was a three-sport athlete in high school.
Also on the injured list is all-conference defensive tackle Christian Covington (sprained knee) and wide receiver Jordan Taylor (foot). However, it sounds like both will be back for the Hawaii game.
Rice is 0-3 but they played two tough teams (Notre Dame and TA&M) but lost to Old Dominion who is in its first year as an FBS opponent after transferring from the FCS.
Hate bye weeks after a loss. Then again, its been awhile since the Warriors had win going into a bye week. *sigh*
Give the starting nod to Taylor and let him play the whole game. You can’t blame him for the interception to end the game. Heck, he’s coming in cold and finally given the reins on the 1 yd line with a little over a minute left in the game and backed up against their own end zone. And it was probably mostly mental reps in practice. It’s time to make a change at QB to lead the Warriors through the Mountain West. Rice can be his coming out game and is very winnable.
Someone needs to pull a Tim Lyons (1981) or Nick Rolovich (2001) type of “to the rescue” performance to save the day.
lol all these people in the last post complaining about moderators not banning people or whatever. Entertaining. You guys sound like a Bunch of 50 year olds who just discovered what internet forums are yesterday. Just because you don’t appreciate the tone of a person’s voice doesn’t mean that the person needs to be warned or banned. Even the whole chicken grease thing. Come on, man. Yeah it was dumb, but the players are also adults that won’t wilt and cry just because somebody blows his stack and calls ikaika woolsey out for his amazingly terrible qb play.
The whole “we are 1-3 like everyone expected. Why you mad??” Thing goes, the chow apologists keep consistently missing the point:it’s not that people are upset that they’re 1-3. It’s that the product UH football is putting on the field is burying and terrible. Scott Harding is the most exciting player on the field and akk he does for the most part is punt. What exactly is this team’s identity? What do they do well aside from rugby style punt? Anyone know?
Boring, not burying.
GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!
Good morning:
UH vs Rice
24 – 21 Pomai
38 – 14 Jack Flash
56 – 14 d1shima
Dang it neva go sleep yet but really have to
Hi Pomai,
Please post my pick —
UHfan808 – Us rice pounding Warriors 35 : them lomi lomi rice balls 14
Hehe
Thank you
Defense played well is QUESTIONABLE as that is a “loose lips sinking ships” statement if I ever heard one.
Defense is played from the beginning not the second half. Too many BIG plays UH gives up at the most critical time which puts so much PRESSURE on an inept offense that cannot score from the red zone. So many three and outs that if you would take count of all FOUR games in that area we lead the NATION in that category !
Now mind you I do recognize the boys NEVER given up which the reputation of the program still has that swagger about themselves for years and for that it is commendable BUT so many problems offensively and the schedule becomes deeper and tougher with Rice regardless being 0-3 they have Texas athletes who take great pride in their football and they are HUNGRY for a win. Playing at Rice won’t be easy again because of their hostile crowd environment and UH woes trying to WIN on the road. Improbable but not impossible !
Seems like every year the injury bug just comes up on Chow teams as in all reality I have never seen nothing like it. The man has got to have a HEX in that Achilles heal and for that he really deserves better but deserving and earning are two different things. Play calling is highly suspect and when LOSING keeps lurking up it’s lousy head as it has done going into Chow 3rd year that it becomes a MENTAL problem with players that I know doing their best to avoid this fragile stage as it leads into mistakes and frustration from both coaches and players. The bottom line can UH with all it’s problems just get a BREAK in which it can come out and control the game from the beginning which will bring confidence and excitement to all players. Playing “catch up” especially at the Division I level takes so much energy both mentally and physically as I know I have been there many times during my athletic career at UH as loyal and band wagon fans express their disappointments vehemently as players do hear it and at that tender age 18-22 years they are impressionable and their PRIDE hurts because they want to WIN badly not only for Hawaii but for themselves !
Will keep on cheering for the boys regardless as FAN support is surely needed and harsh criticism from any one here or at the game is not going to help this tough situation. Sports that is why we LOVE it because of the many dramatic situations revolving among teams who has to compete for the right to become champions. It is not done over night and it has to be worked on tirelessly and played on the field.
Bye week is needed to heal their wounds and get back to the fundamentals. Chow knows this as well as his players. Repetition you can do so much as in all reality the games are here and all evaluation and preparation is done during the summer and after last year dreadful season. This seems to be the most critical area that Norm Chow deals with during his tenure as Coach and will be his legacy IF he does not turn this LOSING around.
Regardless will be there cheering for the guys as that is all we can really do. Have a good Sunday as I travel to West Covina later today supporting my rainbro Gary Allen who’s Mother past away last week Saturday. Seems athletics are secondary when a love one departs us. My prayers and condolences to all friends and love ones that I will see in the next 7 hours. RIP Mrs. Vivian Allen
The problems at the QB, RB and WR positions are a failure to recruit. The longer term problem is after three recruiting classes Chow will still be short in numbers and quality at those positions in year four.
Pomai:
UH 24 Rice 10
Please.
Good Morning!
Tough loss! Hoping for speedy healing to all our injured Warriors! Loved our Special Team & Defense and the effort from the players as a whole! I seriously hope the Offense will be able to find the spark and sync they need to become extremely better each week. I believe in these guys, I know it’s well within their grasp! Go Bows!
Pomai: US 42 – DEM 10
While Woosley gives the team the best chance to win (according to a Norm Chow) Graham looks more like a QB. Long term Woosley is probably the better choice, short term looks is will make this a QB controversy in the eye of the fans.
The sun does rise even after a loss!
GO WARRIORS!
GO VULCANS!
According to Chow Woolsey is still #1.
With all the rumbling going on Pomai should open another poll.
Woolsey or Graham
Prater or Reilly
I jest of course.
If Woolsey is still going to be the starter, of course I support him.
BUT, is Graham really that bad to not have earned a start at this point?
ST . . . please, some insight on why Graham just can’t get that chance.
UH 28, RICE 24
RAINBOW WARRIORS 34
RICE bOWLS 31 (get it?) hehe
Thanks Pomai. Have a blessed Sunday Gang…
Remember, their starting qb got hurt but they put up 40+ points anyway. Gonna have to get the offense going some how.
may as well add Ewaliko to the poll. someone is going to mention him.
Our red-zone attempts were horrible. Not being able to score at 1 was really bad.
TG should be first string, then Prater or Reilly.
Not sure what happened, but I think Graham has been in the doghouse since last season and was never going to be the starting quarterback again unless there were injuries.
Enough ranting, had enough of that yesterday. NFL time.
Graham! Now or forget about the rest of the season. It’s painful watching Woolsey struggling with his accuracy. If Taylor can’t get rid of the ball quick and get sacked a lot then the line is not doing a good job. I’d rather have a few more sacks and a lot more completions anytime.
Watching the Chargers/Bills game. It strikes me how many different O formations each team uses and how they will at times adjust alignments of the receivers or blockers pre snap.
In today’s NFL Chow’s offense would be considered ultra conservative or out dated. In my eyes he’s still using a power running game in the guise of a spread offense. I only mentioned this because Chow said after the UNI game he was calling the game like how they do it in the NFL, playing field position.
There is no question who the starter is…”Chow said Ikaika Woolsey, who was 10-for-24 for 64 yards, will remain as the No. 1 quarterback.” Reference SA article today by ST. I thought TG looked good in fall camp, but so did IW.
The only thing against Graham is his ability to protect the ball. I guess in Chow’s eyes its more important to protect the ball instead of being accurate. Picking the lessor of two evils so to speak.
Aww, so close for Oakland to tie the game.
Good Morning Gangeez! 😉
Looks like we have THAT running back in the courageous Steven Lakalaka.
Now if we can just find THAT QB… then we’re in business.
I hope Graham plays a full game against Rice. Let’s see what he can do. Don’t forget about the unheralded 3rd string QB who came off the bench and led the Warriors to an impressive string of victories and a share of the old WAC title. Bryant Moniz answered the call, who will answer the call now?
The Warriors have grit, conditioning and a will to win. Just get a complete game in all phases and they can hang with any body. If those three field goals were touchdowns, it would have been a different game. Proud of our guys.
GO WARRIORS!!!
NFL? Down 21? No problem for the Cowboys.
Chow’s reference to NFL play calling/game management strategies would have been more credible if his NFL experience had been a little more successful.
I think for Woolsey the thing is his biggest strength is his mobility and that has not been a factor at all. With the passing game being so horrendous teams are just gonna stack the box against us.
Everyone complains about play calling; but, if the QB can complete at least 50% of his passes (LOL…that’s manini but in Hawaii’s case huge), and the receivers can secure all those balls thrown right into their chest, Hawaii would be 3 and 0 versus the PAC 12. LOL…no BUTs or IFs.
I know things can get better. WE still have a chance to be Mountain West champions the time is now for somebody to step up. Even if our offense becomes just a little more productive i think we have a defense that can keep us in games.
Go BOWS!!
Fans Just gotta BOWLIEVE
With the drops and inaccuracy i can understand why Chow/wynn has been so conservative. The only way the offense will open up is if the Passing game improves drastically in the bye week. But I do like what we have in Lakalaka.
Norm Chow on the fans
“We have tremendous fans, but they wanna see a winner. Its difficult, its tough. We have good fans we just need to win some ball games so they feel better of us.”
I will be very disappointed if we end this season without a 1st string QB that will be coming back for the 2014-2015 season. Year 3 seems unacceptably late for coach playing QB roulette.
Why do we only have one trick play per game. They are not like coach’s challenges are they?
If Woolsey gives us our “best chance to win” then we are in pretty deep trouble because it’s hard to see us beating anyone with such an inaccurate and ineffective passer. I don’t question that he’s working hard and doing his best but we are four games into the season and his consistency has not improved.
Pomai . . .
‘Bows chow down on Rice.
38-21, my usual guess.
I suppose, regardless of the opinions we share, Chow is going to do what he thinks is best under the present circumstances. As fans, we just have to ride out the storm and hope for the best.
Pomai
17 – 28 Rice
Pomai, if you please:
Warriors 31 Rice 10
The coach is paid $500,000 or so per year to lead, coach, recruit … that’s a lot of compensation and a lot of work. The AD also gets a healthy salary to lead and support UH football. By the end of homecoming, I hope to see at least 3 wins.
This is why we have to be encouraging fans
Can point out what we don’t agree with and don’t like
But ultimately, we want them to gain greater confidence as the season goes on to know that we’ll be there to cheer them on
What we ask the players and coaches to do
And what they have been able to accomplish has been quite amazing
Much improved from last year
Focus less on what they did wrong and make it more about what we liked, wanna see more of, and where they might think about adjusting and we will stand a much greater chance of *making* the players and coaches want to reach for our higher goals, too
GO WARRIORS!! GO WARRIORS FANS!!!
Weighing in on the QB situation, I don’t feel Taylor Graham is the answer. Early on when TG came on board, I admit I bought into the “hype” as he seemed to have the physical tools, except for being unbelievably slow. I thought he even had the correct genetic lineage as Kent Graham was a very smart QB for the Giants who showed excellent decision-making and seldom threw to receivers who were double-covered. Unfortunately, watching TG in action last year was disillusioning and disappointing to say the least. He did not grasp the offense effectively and could not “make plays” the way Colt, Rolo and others so easily did. I honestly would rather see what Reilly and Prater have to offer if Jeremy or Ikaika aren’t up to the task.
Raw and adjusted quarterback ratings:
2014
Woolsey – 27.0 and 20.3
Higgins – 15.6 and 13.8
Graham – no data
2013
Schroeder – 60.5 and 53.5
Woolsey – 13.0 and 11.8
Graham – 8.3 and 12.7
Higgins – 52.4 and 42.5
2012
Schroeder – 25.5 and
Higgins – no data
64… $500k may be a lot of compensation for us, however, the $550k that Chow makes ranks 85th of 126 for FBS head coaches and near the bottom for MWC coaches. UNLV’s Bobby Hauck just got a raise but still is the lowest paid coach at $500k
Btw, Lakalaka and the QBs and entire Offense, too, of course – great job with the run plays!
You sure out-did predictions and expectations here! Yup!
Now just gotta figure out what else to tweak that would capitalize on this effort all the time in all instances and opponents!
(Is this like the elephant and mouse kind of thing? Using your strengths, or, translating this into what others might not think of as your strengths hehe)
Boom Lakalaka!!
Cheehu!!
68 FUHA:
That’s why when compensation is not equal to the task at hand,
What we fans can add to spark unreal motivation is to simply inspire and give them (players and coaches) love and encouragement with our constructive feedback.
Just like for most of us adults at work 😉 The cause is greater than the pay we might not receive 🙁
# 68 FUHA … ranking of pay as well as performance is fair to consider.
Former UH Athlete:
To which UH sport does your blog name allude?
Just a wonderin’ 🙂
oneseason:
Does your blog name mean:
You going be here for one season
You were here for one season before this one
You going be *there* one season
You like go Sugar Bowl one season
You like play one season
You played one season
We will be champs beginning one season
Or..?
Jus’ been real curious but never had chance to ask
Hehe
Bobby Hauck’s new three-year contract, according the the Vegas paper, is $700,000 and ends in 2016 making him the eighth highest paid coach in the conference.
Shoko:
Is your blog name kinda like Shaka but with Os, instead?
! O_O !
😀
56 makazulu:
Yep, *everyone* KNOWS we wanna win
#70 uhfan808 … it is starting to mean … “you want me to pay for one more season of this?” … but it really means that I now, happily, live in the land of one season … always temperate .. 🙂
Gee, second game in a row and the Niner second half adjustments is non existent!
75. No, they’re intials actually.
A better quarterback will help– provided of course that we have one ready to play for Woolsey. Maybe it is Graham given the injury to Higgins. It makes you wonder if we need to change the QB already, why did we pick Woolsey in the first place? I assume that it is because in the eyes of the coaching staff they are fine with Woolsey. Not sure about Wynn, but seems from what Chow said that Woolsey is still No. 1 and he specifically did not say he was opening the QB competition again or going to start giving reps to another QB.
Toughest games to lose are the games where we lose not because our team is not good enough, but because of a more fundamental problem.
That was a dubya that got away.
Congrats to the boys again for a great effort. Proud of the way they all played.
The chessmaster no can. Das the problem. Braddah nevah learn how to get checkmate.
Guud Afternoon Tsaikos…bootiful day.
Lot of suggestions and comments on how the team should adjust. What better place to make sure the coaches get the message than at the Na Koa luncheon? I haven’t been to one but sounds like a good place for all the coaches to make the suggestion and comments. This site might not be the best place to communicate your ideas and thoughts. By attending the luncheon, you will be face to face with the coaches and your comments will be heard.
IMUA WARRIORS!
Coach Wynn scheduled to be there.
80.
Yes, what made that loss so disappointing was that they could and should have won that game. Colorado was not impressive at all and that may be their last win of the season. Would have loved to walk out of that stadium with a W. It was very painful getting heckled by CU fans on the way out.
I hate to say it but Woolsey is the only choice right now. TG is not ready because he’s not getting any snaps in practice so how can anyone expect him to all of a sudden be ready to play. Woolsey is the only choice and that means more losses.
Ikaika your efforts and fighting spirit is there for everyone to see. There is NO QUIT in you. I greatly appreciate your commitment to our state, school, and community. Coach Chow great effort by staff and team. I will continue to support Na Koa Anuenue. Imua.
What evidence do you have that Max is going to do good in 2015 ? Only one year to play. Is he accurate enough ? Although Dan did well in 1999.
It’s all about improving right now and not necessarily winning. We took two steps back in the last two games after two good efforts against tough Pac 12 opponents, before struggling against an FCS team and what is probably the last place team in the Pac 12. Two week bye– get it going again.
POMAI:
UH-24
Rice-10
Warriors, Mahalo for giving it all and representing
Hawaii. Go Warriors!
Was at the game. Many mistakes on the play calling: 1st series on offense, down well within field goal range and a long developing pass play called resulting in a sack and a turnover…………2nd & 2 @ the 2 and we try to pass? resulting in a sack and a loss, then having to settle for a field goal. Dropped passes. But undeniably the effort was there.
Good overall effort by the D. Now the O needs to come on!
CU fans were courteous. Had a good time. Loved the Buffalo and then energy of the students!
Taylor Graham’s opportunity to QB the Warriors has returned. He did not seem ready last year with the absence of prime time game reps since high school, and took his lumps. He was able to get a little taste of the speed of the college game, and took mental reps with that perspective after he went down. This is his last hurrah. There will be urgency. It is kind of like Sean Shroeder’s situation. He stewed at no. 3, but as JJ has said in the past, he was only a couple of snaps away. With Ikaika’s ineffectiveness and Jeremy’s injury, the door is open for Taylor. I hope Norm sees this and gives him a real shot. Defenses may actually end up respecting the pass when the ball is handed off to Steven, Joey, etc.
The problem I see is growing pains (inexperience) at QB and receiver which leads to inconsistent results……. Hopefully by the second half of the season they will begin to get on the same page…..
From the woulda, coulda, shoulda file, perhaps the offense would have been different in some way if Aaron Price did not have his “issues” and took the helm as OC in earnest. I think that bit of experience on the offensive side of the ball would have made a difference the past two years as far as scheme and play calling. Look at what an experienced college defensive coach/coordinator like Kevin Clune has meant with essentially the same players as last year.
I don’t think that play calling is the root of the problem, execution is. Receivers dropping passes and running wrong routes, the QB not finding the right receiver and poor accuracy. The team needs to execute, without the correct execution it does not matter if a run or pass is called……
Time for Beau Reilly to get more repetitions in practice and accelerate and expand the playbook for him. What do we have to lose at this point? We have a bye week to get a lot of practice time and repetitions. Not to mention, we have another two weeks to get ready for another Non Conference opponent in Rice. Rice will be starting another new QB themselves. Time to experiment if Reilly can do some things before the conference schedule starts. If Higginns has in fact a fracture he will be lost of the season. Woolsey based on his performance to date is unacceptable after 4 games. Maybe Graham has a shot, but we have seen him play before and it doesn’t exactly translate to a lot of consistency. I don’t buy the excuse that a freshman isn’t ready to play QB. There are a lot of examples that freshman QBs in FBS can play, and start. Just today, Clemson has named freshman QB Deshaun Watson to start next week’s game. If a QB is not completing at least 60% of his passes the coach should start looking until he finds somebody. It might not be this year, or maybe next year even, but we need to find somebody who is very accurate. You can’t win otherwise. I feel sorry for the defense. They and the special teams have kept the team in the game with a chance to win.
RE: #92 & 94
J-FORCE and Duster — haven’t seen you post too often in the last 5 years. Nice to see you here again!
WarriorWorld moderators good job cleaning it up yesterday. Keep it up, the Terms to participate are clear, people who can’t follow the rules have other options to rant.
#97 wow…BINGO!
Great teams execute better.
SteveM – Thanks. I still lurk and enjoy picking up tidbits of information from Stephen and insights from Tsaikos and other posters.
Lotta passion following losses. Gotta ask yourself though, are you a glass half empty or a glass half full guy. Das all. Let’s Go Bows!
Aaron Price is now qb coach at Tulane . His brother is the O C.
Duster. #96. The offense would indeed be different if Price didn’t get canned. He was brought in because he supposedly has familiarity with coaching/teaching the spread offense. Chow’s expertise does not extend to this offense. Wynne played in the pro set at Utah and the extent of his knowledge is limited to what Chow has taught him. The spread was designed to be an explosive get yards in chunks offense. Chow is using it as a grind it out move the chains offense.
At the end of last season I half kidding posted the best thing Chow should do is make Rolo an offer he couldn’t refuse.
I’d be happy to see Rolo and Rich Miano return in any capacity.
After watching the last four weeks I am thoroughly impressed with the growth and maturity of the defense. As a lay person several things are glaring problems with the offense. Our receiver corps lack sufficient speed to create separation from defenders. It takes too long for receivers to get clear of the defenders and thus it doesn’t matter who is the QB because there is not enough time for them to wait for the receivers. The OL is doing a good job but it is not realistic for anyone to expect them to protect the pocket indefinitely. Also, it seems to me that the receivers are not finishing their routes completely. This makes the QB look like he can’t complete passes. Unfortunately, defenders are beating our receivers to spots. Granted, passing accuracy is a major problem with the QB’s but it is not all on them. Also, what happened to the tight end? UH has nearly abandoned looking to the TE other than to stay back and block the blind side. Eventually the defense will breakdown if it has to play twice as much as the offense. They won’t last the season. Additionally, I know money is a factor but due to all the injuries before conference play begins I would recommend in the future that UH reduce the number of non-conference games before the conference schedule. JMHO
#107. Moleni is a tight end, he had some drops in the last game, but caught a TD pass in the UNI game.
The non-conference games have to be played before the conference games because most of the teams can’t come out later in the year like before, due to possible conference playoff games.
5-23 with no relief in sight, SMH!
If chow von appen thinks what he’s running at UH is the same style of play and offensive philosophy that nfl teams, he must be extremely delusional.
If there is a change at the end of this season, whoever becomes the head coach should retain Clune, Demarest, Gouveia and Naeole and Beemer.
qb can’t hit the side of the barn?
wr can’t get consistent separation let alone hang on to ball?
Triple option
There is no question that someone has to be the third QB. I hate to see Prater or Reilly waste a year’s eligibility. Hopefully Ikaika or TG will be up to the task but as a precaution one or both freshmen better be taking (many) actual snaps in this by-week. A couple of unofficial workouts with the receivers – i.e. throwing the ball around – might be in order. Certainly better than using the machines.
Good night:
UH vs Rice
17 – 28 HiFlyer
24 – 21 Pomai
24 – 10 kawika49
24 – 10 tommui
28 – 24 kev-1
28 – 21 wafan
31 – 10 protector
34 – 31 3-Prong
35 – 14 UHfan808
38 – 14 Jack Flash
42 – 10 mo808
56 – 14 d1shima
aloha pomai
UH 13
Rice 6
agree with Al–let’s install the Triple Option offense with Woolsey; or start Graham with either Reilly or Prater as the backup–you will never know which QB will turn it on during a live game; and become the leader that the team desperately needs!
Can we start a survey on who starts at QB the next game?
I try hard to understand, but here we are after we choose a QB because of his running ability, but we don’t have him running. We had other coaches who knew how to use a running QB– Rolo in his last year: Moniz ran for 8 TD’s (3 against Colorado when we last beat them), David Graves ran for 5 TD’s, all to go with TD’s by Iosefa and Sterling. With Rolo we had an offense that could run the QB’s and a 1,120 yard running back in Green, but still lead the country in passing offense. I am so, so disappointed in what has happened to the program.
This season reminds me of last season. Close games with defense keeping UH in the games only to lose by a touchdown or 2. Also, many key injuries like last year.
#117, I felt the defense had problems stopping anyone last year and the offense got better as the year progressed….. This year its the opposite….
Watching other games on all levels, I noticed a lot of first down
conversions occur when the quarterback “rolls out” and has the
option of a short first down dunk or run it himself. No need to
stay in the pocket on 3rd down or run it up the gut. Woolsley can
do this…
Bowl Game or not, some team will offer Clune a bigger pay check to
help them next season… Maybe Washington or Colorado?
Can’t teach what you don’t know. I’m hoping that TG can make some passes, and that Coach opens up the way for Patterson or Josey to have a shot. I doubt they will, but one can only hope.
I also liked what I saw of Daniel Lewis at RB. He only had one touch but he didn’t dance around or hesitate to hit the hole. Hope he gets more touches.
Anybody know if Puu-Robinson’s going to be back and when? The TE can be big if they can catch the ball.
Thought for today…
shouldn’t we be practicing at least by Tuesday rather than Wednesday?
shouldn’t we open up the qb competition?
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
What would be accomplished by starting a survey on who should be the starting QB?
ST blog of April 19 said that Prater already used a year at Northern Arizona and has 4 to play 4 so he may as well be #3.
Shouldn’t we open up the qb competition?
The question should be. Should we open up the offense more (play calling). Like the first game with Washington Huskies? And not to many power runs up the middle. That way you keep the D guessing what you going to do. And in a way you might give the qb more time to find the open man. The coaches has to do there part to teach the receiving core how to get open and proper way to catch a ball, and hold on to it. They should take a lesson from Colorado receiver Spruce. He knew how to get open. The problem I see is in the coaches and not the player. They are the ones there to teach and coach them, how to get better.
RE: #112
When Al said, “triple option”, I envisioned the wishbone formation and thought “Nah…”.
I have seen Woolsey roll out and thought, “wouldn’t it be interesting if he had a pitch man…?”
Visions of Paul Johnson’s spread offense…
Then looking it up, I find out the spread offense was a variation of the triple option, of which there are 3: wishbone, Veer, and I-formation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_option
The Veer triple option utilizes a TE, 2 wR, and 2 running back. Johnson’s variation uses a fullback, 2 slots, 2 WR and no TE.
So, maybe Al is right– “triple option” is OK by me, except for the wishbone. Only problem is the QB takes a beating. But imagine Iosefa, Lakalaka, and St. Juste turning the corner on a pitch…and they can still go up the middle. OK, that’s my nostalgia armchair coach thoughts. JJ’s point-a-minute R&S has us a little spoiled in judging a QB by his arm alone.
Final Stats 9/20/2014 | Game 4 of 13
– UH vs. CU –
Final score
12 : 21
1st downs
20 : 20
Rushing yards
131 : 118
Passing yards
155 : 287
Total Offense
286 : 405
3rd down conversions
5/19 : 6/18
Turnovers
2 : 2
Penalties
2/15 : 9/83
We more than owned this game
Just watched replay…..Warriors overall are very well coached. Won 3 of 4 quarters. Little things continue to cause problems ie. dropped balls, missed rec. blown assigenments, failure to follow blocks. If you watch you will see about ten plyas decided the outcxome of this game. They will not be underdogs for most of the remaining schedule and every game I believe is winnable. No “softies” on the pre-season schedule. Checkeck out what NIU to Norther Co. UNLV beat Northern Co by 1. Rice is winnable for sure….get healthy and iron out the wrinkles. Go Warriors!!!!!!!
Good morning Pomai UH 31 Rice 7
Yes start Graham. But sadly I think the qb that I think is the key comes next year. Zwalen is the qb they needed this year. With Whitten here I believe he will start with Zwalen 2nd string. If Zwalen was here this yeari think he starts
I ment Whittek.
Once again, Chow’s decision not to have a legitimate QB competition over the summer is killing this season. Woolsey was the starter from day one of summer camp and no one else really had a chance to compete. We’re now past game 4, Woolsey is not the answer but Chow is too suobborn to see that. So he’ll keep pushing him out there and we’ll keep losing.
I seems that it goes way beyond besides who is at QB
Of course not counting out of bounds throw aways, it seems all of our QBs are pretty consistent about being *just ahead* of their receivers like by an arm length or a few *in front*.
If this is a correct assessment, would this be more of a per QB issue or a coaching adjustment issue?
Then,
could maybe more direct, shorter-height lobs (definitely not grounders lol) help reduce interceptions and give the defender less time to spot the ball, and maybe could receivers also incorporate various types of juking patterns to more easily shrug off defenders?
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130 Maddog:
YES!!!
79 oneseason:
Oh hey, that’s cool – Does that mean you came home to live? 😀
(Yeah, I will be a season ticket holder for always 😀 this season is not so bad at all; I have faith 😉 )
80 Shoko:
Boy, you sure have lotsa initials hehe
Are they really in this order:
S
H
O
K
O
or
Could they maybe be in some other order:
OOKHS
KOOHS
SHOOK
KOOSH
HOOKS
KOHOS
OSHKO
or
…SKOOH
?
Hehe jk jk jk 😀
maddog50: “They will not be underdogs for most of the remaining schedule and every game I believe is winnable.”
lol seriously?
For the first 4 games; our offense is just not clicking–we need a spark here BAD; and that can only come from our QB.
Let’s play all the QB’s for at least one series; and see how each performs under the “LIGHTS” of a real game–some QB’s are simply gamers; and you won’t know who they are until they have a shot!
141 tom-warriornation:
Yeah, so is this a coaching needs adjustment kinda thing or all of our QBs need adjustments kinda thing?
It seems our QBs overthrow by the same amounts – What does this mean?
And they all maybe lob their balls just a little too much (so the defender is given too much ample time to focus 😯 on the ball way more than they should be able to…
I remember how shocked I was when Chow did not retain Rolo and Aranda or keep Graves at QB. Time has proven those decisions to have been very, very bad. The numbers don’t lie, and everything has been going downhill from what Graves, Rolo, and Aranda were able to achieve. Clune used to work for Aranda before Aranda left for Wisconsin, so maybe we made up part of the mistake.
Temp–with all due respect, and I mean that earnestly, the hindsight and six-degree of separations, is too often played with coaches that have departed, and moreover, it is neither provable or relative.
For instance, are we to say, from my era, that the non-retaining of coaches Duane Akina, Brian Norwood and Ken Niumatalolo, would have resulted in us having better teams in the late 80s and early 90s? Two of these guys coached on teams that played-on national championship games? But, we also went to our first bowl game ever without them?
The fact is and remains, is that coaching is a very transient and opportunistic career. Sometimes you are in the right spot, and at other times, you are the victim of circumstances. Take for instance my boy Doug Semones, great HS coach, I think coach of the year three times. So, while he has a great coaching mind, he was equally fortunate to be at a place like Kahuku. Several years later, he makes the jump to UH, and well the story of Von Appen is known to everyone–boom-canned.
Goes back to HS coaching in Idaho and is very successful. Makes the move again to college, this time at boola-boola U, and well, the Head Coach gets in hot water with the administration–boom again–canned again.
He lands at a non-football school like tiny Occidental, and turns around the program. My point being, its hard to tie a delineated nexus, that had these coaches stuck around our teams would have been better–stuff happens, and folks move……
Hey Prong….serious As a heart attack take a look at our opponents and there performance. I do my homework and have seen two or games by every team. This offense will straighten out. As far as D, don’t look for anyone to score more than 21. We will be in each and every one…..we need to score 3 times on O and we win. ST and D will provdide margin…..Warrior Serious..no lol.
Definitely hurting without Kirkwood and Haynes.
140 4-prong:
I think same things as Maddog50
Based upon actual stats not just final scores stats:
With the exception of pass completions, our Warriors keeping up with the opponent and making less penalties than the opponent = Amazing !!!
How often were we in the end zone (Defense)
How often are we keeping punts to land on single digits (Harding)
We made sacks using different personnel (Various plus causing fumbles and making interceptions; Yap made a TD; even Woosley defends!)
And we made way more than majority of FGs (Hadden)
All these things plus completions = More than absolutely Amazing!
Warriors Can. Do. It. All.
Seems like some over throws would be completions if we had faster receivers out their. I remember Matthew Harding chasing those long bombs. He had a mean afterburner.
Ding, ding, ding.
New post is up.
Here’s the link: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=23878
148 Z:
Nope, not gonna get any more new receivers mid-season, either
Just somehow have to get the current ones to do a little mind and body adjusting in order to complete
If defender runs faster
Then maybe we should run slower
Or zigzag more
and also differently
Maybe create our own patterns
Idk
Sumting and almost anyting a little different!