Health-plan change
One of the busiest members of the UH athletic department — Dr. Gale Prentiss — is leaving as team physician at the end of this football season.
The change will coincide with her move from University of Hawaii Health Services to Kaiser Permanente.
The unusually high number of injuries and ailments have kept the physicians and athletic trainers busy this season.
We wish her the best.
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It this point the only name people care to read about leaving is Norm Chow.
Is is a bad thing that every Monday I wake up hoping to see that Hawaii has scheduled a press conference…
If Chow isn’t fired this week, expect the attendance to be under 15,000.
Halloween with the kids, parties with friends, heading to Waikiki, etc will be a higher priority.
There is nothing positive to read on this team other than Norm Chow is gone
My friends can’t even give their tickets away.
Matlin is losing supporter every day Norm is on staff
Imua808:
My co-worker and her boyfriend want to go to this week’s game but don’t have tickets.
Tell your friends to drop off the tickets at our office.
Thanks.
University of Miami fired their coach and Central Florida’s coach retired after a bad stint. Now that’s the kind of headline that will sell papers and get Internet hits. No need read fluffy stories
According to a poster yesterday….we are all ‘fanatics’ on here…wanting the ouster of Chow…KHON TV-2….Well i remember sum one asked him if he listen to the talk sport shows or read the blogs.. n he said sumthing like… ‘I would go crazy if i listened to them or read all that is out there…was after a loss… don’t know which one…there are so many…he he he
I think Norm Chow will be let go if we don’t have a winning record and go to the Hawaii Bowl this year. Whether that is after our next loss or at the end of the season I don’t know. But in the interim I am try to keep in mind that we still have a chance for a successful season. If we win this Saturday the momentum starts to build as does the interest. So I am going to show up on Saturday with my wife and a couple of friends we invited, tailgate and be hopeful that we can pull out a win. The rest will take care of itself. I doubt that Dave Matlin needs my input on the coaching siuation. He ran the Hawaii Bowl and his success was very tied to Norm Chow’s success. I assume he is more tired of losing than I am. And I am very tired. But there is still something about game day at Aloha Stadium that is enjoyable even in the midst of the frustration.
Imua808:
A headline would sell more papers if people weren’t subscribers.
Does this mean you’re not a subscriber?
If not, you can subscribe when you drop off the tickets.
Hmmm, Dino Babers is out. He is on the way to a possible double digit win season (currently 6-2) and fully expect him to be coaching in the Big 12 or SEC next season. Duane Akina is also riding high, with Stanford sneaking up for another Rose Bowl appearance at 6-1. Brian Norwood is the DC at Tulsa, and having a fairly mediocre season….3-4.
Although June jones is likely the leading candidate to be next HC, my top 2 choices for hawaii will be
1. Brady Hoke- proven HC that has rebuilt 2 programs that were falling apart. Ball St was the worst MAC team prior to him coaching there and SDSU was the laughing stock of the mwc.
2. Kalani Sitake. Respected leader, strong figure in Polynesian community. Excellent recruiter.
Another old skool poly-guy with ties to the islands is Robert Anae, BYU OC-as they are 6-2. But he strikes me as Chow-lite….Plus, BYU, supports their athletic programs very well, and I am not sure how much that is portable.
Difference between a leader and a punching bag.
Norm Chow after a loss. Avoid facing the noise, make excuses, let fans express anger and not address any of it. Only cares about going to work (yes we all go to work too) and repeat how we keep making the same mistakes week to week.
Kyle Whittingham after a loss. Engages with fans on his own time on a Monday morning addressing concerns, issues and how his team is going to bounce back. Not hiding from and noise and manning up about what the team needs to get done.
One coach understands the importance of his fan base, the other hides.
Lewis Powell at Hawaii – Twitter didn’t exist, didn’t embrace social media and the impact of twitter, recruiting, and selling the program.
Lewis Powell at Utah- On Twitter, selling and promoting the program, embracing free outlet to reach out to fans and recruits.
Not about working harder, it’s about working smarter.
The next headline I want to read is that a news conference has been scheduled about the Hawaii head coach.
Things could be worse…coach could have a .221 winning percentage.
It’s an admirable trait to say you are not a quitter but an effective commander wins battles, not loses them.
Well, at least NC won 2 games. Better than 0-8. Still going to watch the game this Sat. but just to eat some prime rib, barbecue chicken, maybe roast pork and all the other good stuff like rice etc. MMM! FINGERLICKING GOOD!! Ill be taking 7 and 7 1/2 or more from friend. If they cant win then just cover the spread!! How about Rich Miano- head coach, June J OC, and Cal Lee DC? Cal Lee was an excellent linebacker at Kalani Hi back in the day as well as at Willamete? This would fill Aloha Stadium no question!
Morning Tsaikos!
Thank you, Dr. Prentiss for your services to the team.
Couple sources told me that JJ is interested and maybe the next HC. Good news or bad news, we’ll see. Even BC this morning is starting to change his take on NC staying.
Go Warriors, beat Air Force!
Without a bowl game appearance this season Norm Chow stands no chance with the UH Football fans and media to keep his job for next season. The past 3 seasons Chow got a pass for needing time to build a depth chart and time the Hawaii football players learn of execute new offensive scheme. But this season being Chow 4th season, Norm Chow has had time to build his depth chart, so injuries are no excuse for losses this season. Unless, the Warriors win out the rest of the season (Which I doubt Norm Chow coaching the of Hawaii Football team), I having a difficult time seeing Chow Hawaii team beating Air Force, UNLV, Fresno State and San Jose State. I think the only team that might be a win is Louisiana Monroe. A 4th losing season and no bowl game. I can see the Hawaii media and fan base turning against keeping Norm Chow as Hawaii Football Head Coach just like they did with McMackin. Time to start getting on the phone and call June Jones and/or Dino Babers!
Hey… people should come out to the game to support the players, not the coaches. I have season tickets since 1975, and I go to support the program and the players. If it is a bad season, it’s a bad season, but that’s no reason to not come out and support the kids.
This is when they need us the most. I guess many of you out there have never played on a team that struggles to win. I have and it’s not easy, but having people not supporting you or talk about not coming out, that makes it harder.
But I know the kids are trying. So keep coming to the games, I know I will be there Saturday and the rest of the home games. And I hope the rest of you do so too.
GO WARRIORS!!!
Attendance is dropping to an all time low. Interest in the program is also very low. We need to get Norm out of here so we can start building for the future quicker. Start recruiting earlier with the new staff so they can pitch their vision. At this point I could care less who the next coach is as long as his name isn’t Norm Chow.
Has anyone listened to fan phones the past couple of weeks? I’m not sure if they have equipment issues but something doesn’t sound right. It almost sounds if they are pre-recording the fans and are now able to only play the clips they want to.
Also, reading of the tweets is incredibly annoying. I can understand reading a couple here and there but not for 5-10 minutes straight lol. I want to hear actual fans call in, not the host reading a monologue. Emailed KKEA about this but haven’t heard back.
Also the times have passed Norm by in terms of using technology to his advantage to communicate with fans and recruits. I bet Norm has no idea what snapchat is.
I’ll pass on Kalani Sitake. He hasn’t had a chance to show what he can do yet on his own. Much like Rolovich, his defense at Utah was more a reflection of Wittingham than his own.
Brady Hoke is an out of the box choice and something I hadn’t thought of.
I wouldn’t mind given Dirk Koetter a shot. Who knows where we would be if Donovan got his choice. I was talking to friend about Robert Anae and he made a good point that Anae could very will be a NC Part II. Many similarities in both personality and offensive system.
I HAD MORE FUN AND ANTICIPATION WHEN I USED TO GO U.H. GAMES IN THE MID-FIFTIES AND THE SIXTIES. NOTE: NO EXCLAMATION POINT; JUST STATING A FACT.
New coach needs to bring excitement back into Hawaii football, and I’m hoping for it to be in the form of a spread-type offense… Run-n-shoot, air raid, run spread, pass spread, something, anything either than the ground-n-pound that only results in huge punt stats. Please. GO BOWS!!!
Iwonderwhy,
It’s because the callers were swearing on live radio. Had one caller ask, “Am I live?” and when Gary said “yes” the caller just yelled “Fuuuuuuuuu**”. This morning a caller said “s**t” and BC warned him to watch his language.
Hey all you Bows fans out there (95% of which don’t care about or read these blogs), let’s go out and support OUR team this Saturday. Spread the word. Go Bows!! Aloha Spirit!!
DaveLetterMan,
That’s lame. Both the caller who swore and the radio show that is now going into this kind of format. It really sounds lame the way its done now. What’s more, the host is trying to make it sound like he’s talking to someone live lol. Explains a lot. Thanks.
Hope they change it back soon because I literally changed the station mid-point because I couldn’t stand the reading of tweets.
George I’m with you but in Chitown. Will be in Vegas. Done with the deceased equine-time for some positivity-Go Warriors. Fact check I think a total of six Seniorsnow in line up and I think some talent weAring those Red things!
21. I’m all about giving coaches chances to rebuild… But. Once I saw his recruiting strategy and effort, I gave up on that plan after year 2. 2013 showed Norm had no idea how to put together a collective recruiting class. Signing Kennedy Tulimasealii is awesome, but this game takes 10-12 HITS per class to make it work. We have fallen short every class and 2015 class being the worst. A QB still hasn’t been developed. You would think the 1st priority in year 1 is to recruit a QB to develop into program.
I’ll be passing out trick-or-treat candies in front of my house this Saturday. Wishing the Warriors put it all together and have a win. Go Warriors !!!
Iwonderwhy,
Agree it’s lame. There’s a way to delay the show to screen the callers. Listening to Gary read is boring.
100% agree that Chow’s failure to bring in a groom at QB from the start, or near start, and instead using temp fixes for 1-2 years is outrageous.
all the stuff you read here and hear on the radio about a coaching change is all pure speculation/opinion. Yay for the freedom of speech and freedom of the press. But none of this stuff holds any water or counts unless the news ‘officially’ comes from the UHAD and UH Administration. We have heard nothing officially to date. So in the meantime, what you hear and read regarding any coaching change is purely for entertainment purposes. it’s up to you what you want to make of it. i know i will be at the inner circle parking lot tailgating (supporting Koa Anuenue) as well as attending the Air Force game as a proud season ticket holder.
Me and my crazy chick go over to my Mom’s house to watch the pay per view games as we halved the $400 cost. My sister and her family come over too. It’s gotten so bad that me and my two young nephews cheer for our opponents because Hawaii will never amount to anything under Chow so we want UH to lose so they’ll get rid of Chow.
That’s how bad it is.
Next step is apathy, the opposite of love. We used to live for UH football. It’s now on its deathbed, and for many of us, if they don’t do something now, we’ll leave UH football and never come back.
So Mr. Matlin please do something. I still respect Chow, he knows more about football then I’ll ever know. But the time has come he’s had his chance and it’s best for all involved if he just takes a poison pill and moves on with his life.
No one knows what tomorrow will bring. Miracles happen.
My family who has been season ticket holders for 33 years has a group of tickets in the blue 20 yard line on the opponents side. There are 35 tickets in our group. This has been a family tradition for as long as I can remember. It’s gotten so bad and frustrating to watch the team under Chow that we decided that we’ll just have dinner parties instead of the tailgates. We’ll get the same good food and company without the heartache of watching horrible football. He has killed our interest.
36. It is not for entertainment purposes. The fans are speaking and putting heat on the administration to make a change. Chow is going to be gone. It’s just a matter of when. Most agree the sooner the better. Start the hiring process now. Then we don’t need excuses of getting a late start in recruiting and putting together a make shift staff like chow had to.
39. Prime example why change is needed. You aren’t the only one and I don’t blame you. Hopefully your family will be back on board once changes are made. Sadly, the pre game Agu Ramen dinner is about the only thing I look forward to before watching Hawaii games. Granted they won 2 this year, only the Colorado game was exciting.
aloha everyone !! nice story ST !! ST how max legs holding up? got up real slow after a hit in the last game !! and what happend to mel davis the running back ?
It used to be a fun experience because we were competitive and the games were exciting. We are paying for entertainment and when we are no longer entertained and instead getting in a bad mood by complaining about the idiotic things the coaching staff does, we realized we should spend our time as a family more productively. All we were doing was complaining about how bad the coach and program has become. Like most people its a form of entertainment and when that value goes down people will spend their money and time doing other things. By attendance figures no one is being entertained.
It’s not like Chow hasn’t been trying to find/develop a QB, it’s just that every one of his guys haven’t lived up to expectations.
1. Sean Schroeder: Schroeder was brought in with the makeshift 2012 first class purely to bide time until Taylor Graham was eligible.
2. Taylor Graham: Chow’s first real QB prospect at UH. Problem was that Graham got shell shocked by terrible pass protection his first two starts and just when he started to find a rhythm, he breaks his collarbone, and the way thing played out, he never got his job back.
3. Ikaika Woosley: Started as a walk on who worked his way up. Started in his 3rd year in 2014. In all reality, Woosley was just biding time for Max Wittek. Woosley did not show that he could be a reliable arm and basically everybody under the sun called for him to be benched but Chow stuck with him most of the way.
4. Max Wittek: Chow’s second high profile transfer QB. After some unfortunate proceedings that prevented Wittek from being immediately eligible in 2014, Wittek has been underwhelming so far in 2015.
The Rest: Higgins, Reilly, Zwahlen. Higgins was never going to be the starter while he was at UH. Reilly and Zwahlen are both LDS missionaries that haven’t played a meaningful down of football in a few years. Both look pretty good on their HS film but you never really know what you’re going to get when guys have long layoffs. Still too early to tell on Reilly on Zwahlen but they obviously didn’t set the world on fire if Woosley is the firm #2.
Just proves that Chow has never actually “recruited” a top QB. While at BYU and USC in their heydays, top QBs came to him in droves and Chow only needed to cherry pick the cream of the crop. He hasn’t hardly ever taken an under the radar guy and made him great. All the QBs he gets credit for were all elite prep QBs that most were ready to start day 1.
Assuming there is another loss this season under Coach Chow’s watch, I wonder how long it will take some enterprising individual to make and market “Ciao Ciao” tee-shirts or the like? A “Change” tee-shirt with a particular likeness might sell well too.
Looking back on it, Schroeder was the only QB that’s met or exceeded expectaions. In 2012 there expectations were super low with the rebuilding. Both his years here Schroeder took a hellacious beating but since Chow’s been here, SS has been his most accurate QB by a large margin.
41.
Which Agu Ramen you go to?
When was the last time a Freshman QB was #1 or #2 on the depth chart?
Last I can recall is Timmy Chang. That was 15 years ago.
I’m not counting Woosley in 2013 because was the #4 behind Graham, SS, and Higgins, but saw some emergency action because all were injured on a game or two.
Agu Ramen is pretty awesome. I’m there most weekends (usually @ Isenberg)
I’ll pass on Miano, Cal Lee, and Jones. But if I had to chose one, it would be JJ cause he’s the only one who has proven himself at the college level.
I agree with jeezy33 maybe it’s time to “cut bait” and let Chow go and bring in a new Head Coach and get recruiting started. Maybe June Jones or Dino Babers can get the insanity of bringing the “Rainbow” back to the Warriors Football nickname out of here already. Hawaii Football hasn’t been winning with the Nickname reverting back to Rainbows and the Rainbow retro Uniforms haven’t produced a win this season either. Chow and Ben Jay really made a mess since taking over by bringing back Rainbow nick name losing ways from days past! Lets keep in mind the Hawaii Rainbows did not go undefeated 12-0 regular season and go to the Sugar Bowl, it was the Hawaii Warriors! Some traditions/nostalgia are better left in the past and brought back for a retro night at Aloha Stadium.
Anyone have Maitlin’s ears? An afternoon press conference announcing a coaching change would be welcomed.
37. kanak … By the way, in the last game, UH had 40 pass plays and only 24 rushing plays.
33. Jeezy…. I think Hoke runs a pro-style offense.
i mean 27. kanak
Di anyone see the run n shoot the crusaders played
against the Puns? It was fun to watch!!!
i meant 12. Jeezy
49.
Should try the Ward location. Usually much less of a wait and better service. Well, on the days that I work anyway.
You remember Dandy Don on Monday night football…he used to sing “turn out the lights the party’s over…”. Let’s all hope that Chow’s party is over and new reign begins.
How about the next head coach is someone who has never been fired as a head coach before. The musical chairs of coaching mediocrity is getting boring.
44. This isn’t the business of trying. The QBs you listed are transfers. I’m talking about recruiting a high school QB that fits what you want to do, and developing him so he is ready in year 2 or 3. Art Briles recruits kids that fit his system. Norm Chow relies on 1-2 year transfer kids that establishes 0 continuity in the program.
Recruiting a kid who is going on a 2 year mission doesn’t help you when you are trying to win now.
Max Wittek is a practice QB. He practiced well enough at USC too that he was ahead of Kessler on the depth chart when Matt Barkley got hurt. But in game time, he takes too long to go through progressions and stares his 1st option down. Chow didn’t do his homework which he never does and just goes after the wrong guys. He’s compared 2 guys to Carson Palmer already. At some point, he needs to look in the mirror and realize that he is his own worst enemy.
53. Offense really doesn’t matter. Can you hire good assistants, be a leader, recruit, and hold everyone accountable? If so, that’s the guy you want. Hawaii doesn’t run a pro set offense either and our offense hasn’t improved. Execution and lack of preparation is the problem.
Jim McElwain ran a prostyle offense. Colorado St got turned around.
Boise St runs a multiple set offense but lot of pro sets.
Utah St doesn’t run any fancy stuff.
SDSU runs a pro set.
We don’t need a gimmick type offense or a RnS to win. We need a good leader that doesn’t make excuses. A coach that can get with his assistants at halftime and make proper adjustments. A coach that doesn’t fold under pressure in the 4th quarter. A coach that doesn’t get carried away and get costly penalties that hurt his teams chance og winning.
Agu Ramen off isenburg. Yes, it is a very good spot to eat.
Former UH Athlete, good run down on the QBs under Chow. Woolsey came from the last McMackin era and Chow also never gave any chance to David Graves either.
Myself, I believe in a mobile QB who is versatile and can and pass with equal efficiency, someone who makes a lot of plays and moves the chains and scores TDs.
Some terrific examples, and they don’t have to be big QBs either are Greg Ward, Jr. at Houston, and Vernon Adams at Oregon. Ward, Jr. is 5’11” 178 lbs, yet he leads the nation in scoring touchdowns. Adams exploits are well documented. Chow only knows the pro set concepts. The young coaches run circles around him with their innovation, recruiting concepts, personnel evaluations, and technology. He is way behind the times. Old guys like Bobby Bowden, Frank Beamer, Paterno, etc. couldn’t keep up with the younger people.
We will not beat Air Force this week and it’s hard for me to see if we can win another game at all the last 5 games. After this week, we can call aloha to a winning season and a potential bowl game. Time to cut ties with the coach right after that and start the ball rolling to get something in asap because recruiting is critical. Myself, I would have cut ties after last season, but that’s just my opinion.
61. jeezy… Yes, San Diego St. runs that pro style run, run, run, offense under old man HC Rocky Long who is also their DC. Many in the islands have claimed for eons that UH cannot recruit the type of players to run a successful pro-style offense. True or false ?
Stating the obvious, but elite quarterbacks don’t always pan out.
Ron Powlus was a flop.
Beano Cook predicted he would win a Heisman.
Gunner Kiel was the top quarterback prospect of 2011.
Even great prospects need tutoring.
I hope this sounded tactful, because I want to be part of a chat group that’s not angry and combatative.
So far, he doesn’t look the part.
Patience, Grass Hopper. The time will come, soon.
It’s false. I mean you can’t be as vanilla as SDSU and expect to upset Power 5 teams. But you can run a pro style type offense while mixing in variations of other offenses to keep defenses off balance. I mean Boise runs a pro style offense that feeds off running the football and making quick throws. They mix in some trick plays to keep defenses on their toes but it’s nothing fancy. They just execute properly.
The problem with Hawaii is every unit we have on offense is inconsistent. Qb not developed, O line struggling to pick up blitzes or having penalties, WRs dropping balls. It really isn’t the offense, but we don’t execute as a unit ever.
Can the new UH coach, if there is a change, attract experienced assistants who know how to teach and coach up their players? Can UH up the salaries of assistants to attract talented assistants who will be compensated well enough to deal with the high cost of living here? It’s not just a matter of housing them in UH’s faculty housing (former coaches Mike Cavanaugh and Vantz Singletary lived there during their time at UH). I think that the salary package for the coordinators and position coaches will be equally crucial for the program to move forward. The experiment with former GAs just hasn’t worked out for UH. Just my 1.5 cents.
So, let me get this straight… when the other team runs, runs, runs the ball down our throat until we stop them…then suddenly pass for big gains, it is different from our run, run, and pass strategy.
The strategy looks the same–do it until they stop me. Our problem is we get stopped too soon and we remember the Run ‘n Shoot pass, pass, pass, and shovel pass for big gains.
I remember a ESPN commentator saying about JJ’s UH team: “3rd and 20 after the holding call–no problem, just put in an extra wideout”. Sigh.
67. Right now we aren’t looking so much to to upset P5 teams, we’re looking to win some or many vs. MWC teams.
The hiring of Norm Chow was a mistake, as it turns out. Personally I thought the hire had a lot going for it when it was first announced. I also felt that giving NC this year was reasonable given the financial situation of the institution and what looked like a year where we might breakout and be competitive. But keeping him this year was also a mistake, at least it seems that way so far.
But enough mistakes. We are going to pay NC for this year (and partially for next) whether he is terminated after the next loss or at the end of the season. I don’t think it is a secret to anyone who pays attention to college football (coaches looking for a HC job in particular) that there will be an opening coming up soon at UH. I do hope that we can make the transition in a way that doesn’t cause more chaos than is needed. Other institutions seem to be able to do this.
At UH it will be a major milestone to get it right this time and not repeat the bumbling of the past. Examples: Public firing/humiliation of a good man (Bob Wagner), the poorest choice on record (by a nose -Fred Von Appen), the botching of a contract extension (June Jones), grossly overpaying (Greg McMacken) and the second worse choice (barely – Norm Chow).
There I am feeling more confident already.
One thing we need to bring back…is the ALL BLACK uniforms for our home games….Damn I miss them All Black Unis….Every time I watch the OC 16 commercial showing the football team wearing the All Black I get chicken skin…..The ALL BLACK UNIS changes the mentallity of the players and da fans.
If you think color doesn’t matter and doesn’t have an effect on people….Then tell me WHY teams would go and paint the opponents locker rooms all pink…..LOL….Or why strip clubs always using amber lights…Amber lights makes girls skins look…well you know.
I wonder if pink looker rooms for the opponents is or was ever outlawed?…Any one in the know please chime in on that, as haven’t heard anything about that type of sheeat in a long time.
Lakalaka’s attitude about the team and getting back up on your feet is what makes me want to support players like him for the rest of the season. Ok, let’s win the games one at a time.
#71,
McMackin wasn’t grossly overpaid. He was a mediocre coach with a mediocre salary in the eyes of the FBS. There are 83 out of 128 coaches now that receive $1 million or more in base salary. We pay Chow half that. There is a saying, “You get what you pay for.” The saying isn’t always true(just look at what June Jones did), but I believe it is in the case of the last 2 UH FB coaches.
If it comes down to that, do away with a selection committee. Last time with a selection committee, it took about only 17 days to select a new FB head coach.
73. What about Mack’s salary compared to other at that time or current MWC coaches ?
70. Which answers the question if hawaii can win with a pro set offense. We can if we hire the right coaches. If those coaches recruit the right players.
73. Here’s a slightly dated list of the MWC HC salaries :
Only a couple coaches with $1 million or more.
http://sports.newsday.com/long-island/data/college/college-football/coaches-salaries/#f:conference=Mountain%20West|o:c=college;|
I like Brady Hoke. He is a good recruiter. He will make the team tougher. Don’t know if we can afford him.
ABC = Anybody But Chow is a step in the right direction. Come on Maitlin, step up to the plate and do the right thing to right this shipwreck. You are losing your fan base to apathy, which is a very sad testimony. Change is needed NOW.
If Hoke is good, a good recruiter and the pro-set is good, what happened at Michigan ? Hoke looks kind of like a young McMackin in appearance.
If we lose to fresno state at home Chow should be fired on spot and everyone attending should be chanting
Fire Chow!!!
73. Well maybe “grossly” overpaid is a bit of an exaggeration but I don’t think that “overpaid” is. Coach Mac was a nice man. But he had no experience as a head coach and paying him 7 figures was poor judgement in my opinion. He probably would have taken much less. His other option probably would have been looking for a job if we hired someone else.
But, the point of my comment was that UH has a long history of not handling the FB coaching situation well. We are on the cusp of a need for a new coach again. I hope they can do better than they have done over the past couple of decades. I don’t bet. But if I did I would be reluctant to put money on a smooth transition. But, maybe Dave Matlin will bring sanity to a place where there has been little in the past. I hope he is given the freedom to try.
Ben Clarke should be benched this weekend or move him to center. Shouldn’t even be playing in my opinion.
With the broken foot and not practicing. Would be kinda weird if they won the game.
Does Brendan urban play? Would like to see him start. We need a change and mix it up, what do we have to lose?
I think the defense is actually decent, the offense needs to make plays.
#17,
That’s funny. He could drop below the .221 win percentage after Saturday’s game.
They would have to win out to get to the Hawaii Bowl. Possible 4th season outcome for NC:
2-11
3-10
4-9
5-8
6-7
7-6
This year could be another 4 – 9 season.
55, re: Crusaders vs. Pun
That was a great game. I miss the shovel pass.
But since that’s no longer in our arsenal, can’t we come up with draws, screens, anything that can counter the pressure that you know opposing defenses are bringing…because it doesn’t take a football genius to know that we absolutely struggle against pressure.
where are my post?
#2,
“Is is a bad thing that every Monday I wake up hoping to see that Hawaii has scheduled a press conference….”
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It could be bad if it turned out at the end of the year a press conference was called to say Chow is returning for his 5th year. Or, I guess it could be even worse if UH admin says Chow’s contract will be extended for 3 more years after his 5th year.
We’ll just have to wait and see until after the final game of the season.
80. Why does it matter what he did at Michigan? He rebuilt 2 bad football teams and won at mid majors. Hawaii is a mid major. If Hoke was winning a lot at Michigan, he wouldn’t be available and I wouldn’t be suggesting him. It’s a lot harder to win at that level. Dan Hawkins tried and failed, Mike McIntyre isn’t winning, Randy Edsall is struggling, and the list goes on.
Hawaii hasn’t had a winning season under Chow. If Hoke could take us to a bowl game, we’d be happy fans.
Coaches say that in modern college football, you need to score at least 30 points to win a game. Take a look at our record– and apply the at least 30 point standard.
Ivin Jasper was in consideration for the Georgia Southern job.
Army.
Vanderbilt.
VANDERBILT.
I think Jasper is a realistic possibility.
And a good one.
But then again, I’m fanatical about the Paul Johnson family tree.
IMO we can use past history to project what is likely to happen. With conference records of 1-7, 0-8, and 3-5 … and no announcement until the end of the season, Coach Chow always came back for the next year. Maybe a new AD will make a difference, but it seems too early to tell. Maybe after going 0-4 in conference so far, Coach Chow can win 4 conference games and double up on both conference wins and away game wins compared to the previous 3 seasons, but that is a big maybe.
I wish they would hire June Jones. Visionary, creative, respected and proven.
#FreeEwaliko
Dr. Prentiss:
Thank you for all your medical skills to treat so many injured student athletes!!
May health and happiness travel with you for ever.
90. Agree. Michigan is a different animal. Just ask Rich Rodrigues. I just want UH to be competitive in our conference. Then build from there.
#79. I’m on record as saying I was for ABC when the search was going on for Mack’s replacement. Said his style of offense would take to long to produce success. I’m also on record as saying I’m all in after his introductory press conference. Said he had pono and understood the local culture. His chasing championship got me fired up.
I think he and his players share pono as a family. They can see he has their best interest at heart just like he has for his own children.
hope the power brokers keep away from selecting the next head coach — no need selection committee — let Maitlin make the decision and he’ll have to live with it.
if they must control the selection process, then they should be gracious enough to reveal their identities and take credit for the excellent or bad selection(s)
it’s all about POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cappie, IMHO Ivin ain’t coming. He’s gets Navy when Niumatalolo retires.
Nomu #72, I like your attitude. But for me, going into the fourth losing season in the Chow era, its really hard to get up to go to the game. Leaving Aloha Stadium used to be a great experience after a great win. Now, the bus is quiet. No one talking. Glum. That’s the best way to describe it. So I ask, do I want to spend another $160 for myself and my family to go to a game? Easy answer. My family refuses to go. No fun they say. So I’ve been going alone for some games.
Hoke sounds a bit similar to Norm, although the latter wasn’t a HC before. He failed at Michigan because he tried to install his pro set offense there and it didn’t work. At Ball State, it took him 5 yrs to get to 7-6, then the 6th year he was 12-1. At San Diego St. he did good in his second year, but then he left for Michigan where his record went downhill after his first year there.
It’s better to remain silent and be thought a fool then to speak and remove all doubt. I think Matlin will remain silent until there is no hope for a winning season. Ben Jay was not shy in addressing the pubic that Chow was his man even in the face of mounting losses.
What I don’t get is people saying a reason to let Chow go now is we’ll have a head start in finding a new coach and help in recruiting for next year. The better prospects to fill the position are probably on a winning team with 3-5 games to play plus the possibility of a conference championship game. It would be a gutsy decision by Matlin to put a early November closing date for applications. An early closing date is the only way we would a head start.
Coco, I have at least an understanding why it might be prudent to initiate a new head coach search before the end of the season. Bobby Curran said on the “But Seriously” TV show tonight that it would take UH a minimum of 24 days to begin the search because of the State’s hiring approval process. That would put UH behind the 8-ball to get a new head coach in time to at least have a chance of having a reasonably successful recruiting season. To delay the process would only ensure a “lost” recruiting cycle. Perhaps that’s why the Miami Hurricane’s fired their head coach Al Golden today.
And speaking of the “But Seriously” TV show, I’ve heard it again, this time from another professional sportscaster about how “Rigo Sanchez’ missed field goal in the New Mexico game, “Lost” the game for the Warriors. He did not lose the game! The Warriors were “Up by 6-points.” Why can’t these professional sportscasters get it right? Maybe I am expecting too much.
Hi H-Man. I kinda understand the process BC is talking about. What I’m talking about is setting a closing date for applications. From there they can create a list of applicants they wish to interview. I’m not sure they can negotiate with a deal while the application process is still open. The problem I see is setting too early a closing date will limit the number of “good”applicants who still involved in meaningful races.
104. It looked like UH took only about 17 days to hire the present head coach ?
Mack retired on Dec. 5 and Norm was hired on Dec. 22, 2011.
So here’s a fantasy scenario for those who insist that JJ will be back (I am personally not sold on the idea yet).
Sooooooo … it is well known that JJ has been advising some of the local high school teams this season, particularly one in red and blue. If some get their wishes granted and JJ is in fact brought back as UH coach, there would be an existing relationship with certain players. Imagine a scenario where a very talented high school QB with Pac12 offers were to be lured to UH due to an existing relationship with the coach who advised him during his jr year. Could JJ work his magic and convince a certain young player to stay home and potentially become a 4 year starter as a true frosh? Especially since said player runs elements of the desired offense???
Hmmmm …. Just for fun, thought I would dangle that bait out there. Any bites?
H-man … speaking of Rigo, did you hear how many times Kekaula said that he shanked that punt on Saturday? He kept repeating himself (like he always does) that it was a textbook shank. Over, and over, and over, and over. All the while, Rigo’s family was on camera. Really pathetic broadcasting.
Yep, the power brokers at UH or whoever at the state wanted Chow as the coach.
I thought he would turn the program around. Instead he turned it upside down and turned the team into perennial cellar dwellers of the MWC. To top it off, UH pays the other conference teams trip to Hawaii as part of the conference agreement. I guess they had to take that deal. Once the WAC started crumbling, no other conference called.
I remember his press conference speech. “We are going to chase championships.”
I just hope UH don’t get embarrassed on national tv again. Or, maybe that could be the tipping point where the people in power says enough is enough, Chow has got to go.
sorry but i never was one that like chow as head coach from day one !! still remember him pulling his name from the list for UH football head coaching job when jj got it !! and also beening a a old school fan my thinking is alway never hire from BYU !!
hope chow the best !! like how he trying to keep the togetter !!
maybe chow should coach from up in the press box the rest on the season !! maybe he might see and call a better game !!
and let the healthy one play !! no practice no play !! time to let the young and hungry one play !!
There is no reason why Matlin couldn’t be at this very moment fielding inquiries either himself or with the help of “other powers” of prospective coaches.
Anyone without permanent brain damage can easily come to the conclusion that Hawaii is going to have a losing season. Yea, yea, yea its mathematically possible we wont but lets for a moment assume we play the same way we have been playing for the past 3.5 years. The status quo.
With that said, all that’s left is the official announcement of either Chow’s retirement or his release. In the mean time, nothing should be preventing the AD or those tasked by him to go out and beat the bushes.
102. You have no idea what you’re talking about. Norm did not make a BCS bowl game, let alone have a winning season. Hokes record was 31-20. How is that a loser or comparable to Chow? 11-2 in year one. Hoke had 1 losing season.
Im pretty sure Denard Robinson was the QB and was definitely not running a pro style
Hoke ran a hybrid spread and proset. Hoke’s offensive coordinator was Al Borges. Al Borges was best known nationally for his passing attack at Auburn. He began his career at Portland State where he led the conference in passing and that is where he made his connection with Bailey our Offensive Coordinator. Bailey says in his bio that his offense is modeled after Borges’. At Michigan, Hoke ran a hybrid spread and his own passing attack as the team transitioned from a run oriented spread attack back to more of a prostyle. Borges is now OC at San Jose State.
108. I have heard similar rumors from some folks that I know that have kids that play at the certain school that you are talking about and how a certain coach is on the sidelines every week. The rumor is that the certain coach I was referring to will be hired by UH and the coaches of the program you are referring to will be going with him and another hs coach will be moving from his current school to the high school that you are referring to. My only question is who would be the OC. Maybe a certain ex-UH quarterback can be convinced to come back to be the OC. Of course this is all speculation until it actually happens.
Here’s to playing assignment football on D and hitting the check down pass plays. As we weigh through injuries the Falcons are missing 5 starters and both FB are banged up so to speak. I really like Paul Harris and he has a lot of upside but you can not run the ball with just 1 guy. Like SL but not been healthy. Warriors have a shot if the small caliber handgun that has been prevalent is not on the sideline pointed at ones feet-regardless of the heated emotions I hope there is a good crowd on hand. One thing that seems to have been lost in the shuffle is Sanchez’ overall performance in all three phases of the kicking game. Would not be surprised if he hit a 60 harder before end of year. Also in imho-Ben Clarke is an all-time great. This kid has performed above and beyond and what he is doing now with injury is just unbelievable. Go Warriors!!!!!
109.
Hawaii football telecasts were truly kick-ass when Rick Blangiardi was doing color for Jim Leahey.
I like Robert Kekaula better than Tony Sellito.
I’ll just leave it at that.
No.
I won’t.
Once Sellito said during a game that a player can spend seven seconds in the lane if he keeps moving around.
Artie, with a slight trace of exasperation in his voice, disagreed.
Quite recently, Wilson, as usual, employed his patented observation, “The most important part of the second half is the first five minutes.
Sellito shot back, “I think it’s the last five minutes.”
And Leahey, filling in for his son Kainoa replied something to the effect of “no kidding”.
He then took a pot-shot at the ex-Hawaii Pacific coach: “Is the NAIA still in existence?”
I like this late-period Leahey. He is such a curmudgeon. He’ll say anything that’s on his mind.
Sellito has a lot of critics, but all he has to say is: “Hey, National Championship, b*****s!”
“Supergirl” premiered last night.
It’s going to be a hit.
Supergirl saves her sister from perishing in a plane crash, and she doesn’t even say, “Thank you.”
The UH administration lacks a commitment to building a football program. Their approach is to force the athletic department to be self sufficient without any subsdity from UH. This financially handcuffs the athletic department until it can get the state legislature to increase UH funding for athletics. UH needs money to buy out Chow, hire a new coach, and deal with need to increase stipends– Nevada is going to award stipends of $4,000 per season, and we are paying barely a fourth of that.
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What happened to Mel Davis. Why no playing time recently?
I think the next head coach aced his audition this past Saturday with his play calling.
Tony Sellito is one hell of a competitor…and coach….at 3rd base for Midas before time…he was the boss…then pitched for Midas…with Les catching…used to really enjoy those games when ever they came to Hilo or Honokaa n played….against ‘Satch’ pitching there…n yes his record as a player n coach speaks for itself…
Creative721…when the players get fed-up enough…n the seniors call a team meeting…without the coaches…n take control the team…is when they will start 2 win again…they have to sort of defy chow…in a polite way… n get a better resolve to the remaining season…as we all know know…well most of us ne way…chow is the problem…at this point not to physical problem… but more mental…they do have in my estimation the talent… to beat the caliber of teams they are playing…but most of that talent is sitting on the bench…for one reason or another and have been sitting on the bench to long…strictly coaches decisions…me just wonder who makes final decisions to make a player start… position coach..or have to get ok from head coach first ?…there in may lie a big problem…maybe is why so much acrimony with ranting n raving at coaches ?
Could UH afford or be willing to pay Hoke enough to sign him…if he was interested and if he applied?
Just for reference, Brady Hoke was scheduled to make $700k, $725k and $750k in the last three years at SDSU BEFORE his 2010 extension offer. I didn’t look up the exact contract terms but it was said that he could get over $1M with incentives.
Obviously Michigan took him and paid SDSU to sign Hoke away so the contract salary never played out.
I don’t think Hoke would come to UH unless it’s close to $800k-$900k. Anything below $700k would be too low for him considering UH’s competitive disadvantages.
Interesting that BC on his morning show is of the opinion that Upper Campus, while being averse to buyouts, was made aware of importance of not losing a recruiting years. BC stated on tv rhis morning that he thought decision making time frame was about 10 days. He felt they needed to extend or replace for recruiting sake. Totally agree. He qualified it by saying that if UH won this weekend the narrative may change. Toughest of the remaining games is this Saturday.
Would love to see Justin Vele given the chance for some “dirty yards” and would really love if he were utilized like the H back from Nev. hope so. The bitterness of losses is dominating this venue-as I look back on the last 3 games we gift wrapped and gave the opponent the game in various ways. All three of these games were very winnable. We certainly would have felt a whole lot better by scoring at WI. So now faced with the final five. Again these are all winnable with what we have-so we will see how it shakes out but it is not out of the question if we do things right-GO WARRIORS
119. That is 100% true.
I think the only Regent that knows where Lower Campus is is Jeff Portnoy, but that’s only because he calls UH MBB games on radio.
Interesting info on determining which team host the conference championship game. As it stands now, SDSU and USU would appear in the championship game with the Aztecs hosting at Qualcom.
“The Conference Football Championship Game shall be played at the site of the
divisional champion with the highest College Football Playoff (CFP) Selection Committee ranking.”
“If no Mountain West teams are ranked in the latest available CFP Selection Committee poll, a composite of selected computer rankings (Anderson & Hester, Billingsley, Colley and Wolfe Matrix) following the games of November 29 will be used to determine the host.”
http://mwc-platform.silverchalice.co/v3/files/54496344e4b0641ed5ceeeab
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Healing energy to Tsaiko Mark. Get well dude!
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125. If Hawaii is pinching pennies over a few hundred thousand extra to find the RIGHT coach, they might as well get rid of sports period. We’re paying WAY more money in buy outs because our administration is clueless. If it cost a little extra to find the right guy, do it. The return on your investment, minus having to avoid stupid buy outs like Mack, Gib, Ben Jay, and soon to be Norm Chow will more than make up for the extra $200k or so to bring in the right guy.
Finding and getting the right coach takes only common sense and perhaps a little luck. Unfortunately, we can expect politics to raise its ugly head, as I believe was demonstrated in the hiring of Gib Arnold and Norm Chow. But I have confidence it can be done. Laura Beeman is a great example.
Who is the right guy? We’ve been wrong 3 out of the last 4 times. Could have been o for 4 if JJ hadn’t express interest in the job. I think we need a coach that can give the team some identity. With Tomey our identity was we won’t beat ourselves (play to give us a chance to win it in the 4th quarter) and the defense will hit. With Wags it was PJ’s run and shoot and the defense will hit. With JJ it was June would throw and throw some more. Von Appen, Mack and Norm bless their souls were good people who treated their players well but just couldn’t give teams an identity to play up to.
131. The stupid buyouts were Ben Jay and Gib.
Mack and eventually Chow’s buyouts are from underperformance, so I don’t put them in the stupid buyout category. Mack and Chow are in the stupid hire category.
Almost no coach in college football is allowed to play out their contract. It’s either be extended or be fired/resign before they final year, which almost always triggers a buyout. The buyout is inevitable in today’s college football world. You just want to avoid lame duck situations. Lame duck coaches hurts recruiting worse than an bad coaches hurt recruiting.
Gib’s buyout was totally avoidable if UH actually read the contract they drafted and handling Ben Jay’s removal was a total cluster f– of incompetence.
finally …
Some six months after he was introduced as the new Hawaii men’s basketball head coach, Eran Ganot finalized a three-year contract with the university on Monday.
Ganot and athletic director David Matlin signed off on it prior to Monday’s team practice in the Stan Sheriff Center. “To be able to lead this program and to represent this great institution in this state is truly a blessing.” Login for more…
Didn’t UH hire Chow because they were pinching pennies?
Back in 2011/2012, Chow was likely the cheapest option available… Or the best option available willing to take less than $600k.
But also keep in mind UH has a lengthy hiring protocol it must follow and all the back room politics that hinder all personnel decisions with UH Athletics. So spending a few hundred thousand extra to find the right coach is likely not a concept UH admin will follow. Which is sad.
133. All buy outs are stupid. It means you are making poor decisions in your hiring process. Norm’s contract to begin with forced us to keep him for 4 years without paying a steep penalty. Hire the best candidate possible even if it may cost more initially.
Please no more buyouts!!!!!!!
Hire new coach if must(wait till
season over) To me Chow trying
to do it the right way.They recruit
the country,treat kids as student
athletes but the injuries, travel, the no bye
week , the tough schdule ( having
to play money games( Ohio st, Wisconsin )
Paying charter flights the stadium deal , lack of a commited
supportive sthletic culture.The changing
of college football landscape ” the haves
and have nots.In order to turn this around
follow Boise states blue print!!!!!! And please
fix the road pot holds first! Lol
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