Cut-down days

The triple-option offense is a wonderful weapon that helped the Warriors trounce BYU in consecutive years, led to a school-best 11-2 record in ’92, and made former UH coaches Paul Johnson, Kenny Niumatalolo and Jeff Monken very wealthy head coaches.

But on the other side, to defend the triple-option … ouch.

After UH upset California on the road a long time ago, “Ferd” and I were leaving California Memorial Stadium when we saw two Bear DBs. An hour after the game, they were hobbling while wearing ice packs on their legs. What makes the triple-option effective is a receiver cut-blocking at the edge.

Think of it this way: You’re trying to get off an airplane to make your connecting flight, when your shins hit a rolling carry-on suitcase pulled by an 80-year-old guy in no particular hurry. If you’re a DB, you’re getting shinned 60 times a game by those 80-year-olds disguised as receivers.

Think of this another way: Remember the fight between Muhammad Ali and Japanese wrestler Antonio Inoki? (If you’re under 45, you probably don’t, so Google it.) The analogy is a defensive lineman is Ali; a triple-option blocker is Inoki.

All of which should make for interesting practices for an ailing UH team preparing for New Mexico’s triple-option.


  1. 1 October 13, 2015 6:13 am


  2. Shoko October 13, 2015 6:19 am

    Assignment, alignment and focusing on your keys. It should be interesting this Saturday given UNM’s defense isn’t very good. At least from what I seen last weekend against the Wolf Pack.

    I also noticed Davies kind of uses a two-QB system between Jordan (run) and Apodaca (passing). Think Warriors have a better performance on offense against the Lobos then this past weekend.


  3. Shoko October 13, 2015 6:28 am

    Is Paul Harris playing this weekend?

  4. oneseason October 13, 2015 6:29 am

    One the bright side, New Mexico had only 2 wins in MWC play last year. They currently have zero wins and five losses. Okay, they put up 47 points against UTEP, but they only score 13 against Florida and 3 against Old Miss. And they should be dinged up a too having played Georgia State, UTEP, and New Mexico all close.

  5. oneseason October 13, 2015 6:30 am

    never mind .. that was New Mexico State 🙂

  6. H-Man October 13, 2015 6:32 am

    Are you saying thee is little chance or no chance the Warriors can win? I think if the Lobos can execute the option anywhere near as good as Air Force, they will win.

  7. islandman October 13, 2015 7:05 am

    How will 5,352 ft above sea level elevation affect the Bows ?

  8. Maddog50 October 13, 2015 7:19 am

    Harris? Tupai? Fonua? So what the scoop-any additions from the RS squad that might make an impact? We just plain gotta have this one

  9. Da Puncbowl Kid October 13, 2015 7:20 am

    Used to love watching UH when they ran the option. That offense carried Coach Paul Johnson to a great career.

    Keep fighting, Warriors!!!

  10. jeezy33 October 13, 2015 7:33 am

    Some positive news.

    Mason reunites with former SMU LB Inoke Ngalo. Who is committing to play for Hawaii next year via Moorpark JC. High school teammates with Dany Mulanga I think and signed with SMU out of high school.

  11. Ipu Man October 13, 2015 8:23 am

    Triple option can be beat.
    UH needs a four option or five option offense.

  12. ohaibill October 13, 2015 8:27 am

    I’ve never quite gotten over my disgust with UH for getting rid of Coach Wags, Johnson and staff. They were innovators in the game of football. To the universities credit they did bring in another innovator a few years later. He gave up a lot to come here and what a wonderful ride we shared. Sincerely wishing the best for the current staff and team. IMUA

  13. Willie October 13, 2015 8:40 am

    Yesterday it was clarified that the reason the defense had so much difficulty with SDSU’s offense and Pumphrey is because the UH scout team could not simulate game speed. So for this week’s game what is the scout team able to show with the triple option of the Lobo’s? Going to be able to simulate some kind of likeness, game speed, formations, looks? Will the “D” go up to altitude prepared? No excuses this time regardless of the outcome?

  14. mctruck October 13, 2015 8:48 am

    Steve Spurrier at South Carolina quitting/retiring effective immediately. His salary, last season,(4,028,000.00). age, (70). reason, win/loss record(s) going south and he feels it’s time to retire.

  15. Ipu Man October 13, 2015 8:48 am

    Here’s hoping UH defense can score…and often.

  16. mctruck October 13, 2015 8:52 am

    Spurrier must have a huge savings account. He was always proud of his winning teams and winning record. I guess he can afford to cut lose and retire before his winning record(s) get any worse.

  17. Arcumfortis October 13, 2015 8:59 am

    Another must win game this Saturday.

    Interesting discussion yesterday with many famous quotations offered. Yes there is anger out there in the fan base and sometimes an overly critical perspective on the current coaching staff (HC in particular). While the criticism can be criticized I think it is better that it is there. The real worry becomes when nobody gives a rip anymore and the team’s chronic losing ways doesn’t even cause a ripple in the community. I think we are not that far from that point.

    I would still contend that if we lose on Saturday it would be appropriate to remove the head coach from his duties and replace with an interim. This move might not have any impact on our ability to win any more games this year. It is possible it even makes our situation worse. But what it does do is wake everyone up (including the dwindling community fan base) and makes a statement that enough is enough. That UH is willing to make bold and decisive moves under the appropriate circumstances. That we are looking to the future with an aspiration to rise from this chronic level of mediocrity.

    I hope we win this Saturday. I still hope coach Chow can find success as the HC. If this happens I will be glad for coach Chow and for all of us. But at this stage success seems improbable. I don’t bet. But if I did it would not be a bet I would be willing to make. If I am wrong about this I will be a very happy wrong person.

  18. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 9:08 am

    Willie # 13…if they lose there…(hope they don’t) not to worry…. their will be an excuse 4 sure…

    UH… 35
    UDDA GUYS ….24

  19. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 9:27 am

    Me not know who holds the record for the most points scored in Div-1 football…by the defense…n win… but sure hope we surpass the old one this weekend…for a win.. n give out offense sum much needed playing time….so they can get more practice in their RUN…RUN…PASS… PUNT o-fence…he he he…n extends coach chow’s career n contract….b-4 sumone hires him away…

    Hmmmm …how the Jets doing…3-1…guess they are ok now… maybe Miami…1-3 nice weather there…like same here…maybe an option for coach there ?

    Lets all not get to carried away with the ‘game’ of football….but is important that we focus on the ‘game’ of life n lessons learned for our warriors who take the field of play Saturday…hopefully with a win…n injury free…

  20. amela October 13, 2015 9:29 am

    With all those excuses it seems like another loss. Are we the only team in the nation with these problems? Traveling is the biggest one but need to stop making excuses. Makes the coaches not responsible.

  21. ML Warrior October 13, 2015 9:29 am

    Two things UH must do to win this weekend. One, offensive execute, ball control rushing and passing. Two, defense, play as a team, be one, two, or three guys tackling the ball carrier, stop them on early downs, put them in 3rd and long. Give Sanchez and the punting team the weekend off.

    Warriors 27 – Lobos 17.

  22. jeezy33 October 13, 2015 9:44 am

    21. Isn’t that what UH has needed to do every weekend over the past 4 seasons? We haven’t executed offensively ever it seems. SDSU was the weakest I’ve ever seen them and we couldn’t execute a lick.

    Bailey has dialed up a few big plays that would have worked if executed properly. Like the flea flicker that got over thrown this past weekend.

    One big issue I’ve noticed is when opponents blitz. I don’t know where the problem lies whether Wittek doesn’t see it coming pre snap and set the right play, or Wittek doesn’t have a good hot route to neutralize teams from blitzing. I would think this far into the season we would have an answer for blitzes though.

  23. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 9:47 am

    Hmmmmmm is there RECORD FOR MOST PUNTS IN A SEASON…???

    Are we getting close ??

    Sanchez…. should be playing on Sundays in the future..he is a very bright spot for us huh…

  24. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 13, 2015 9:50 am

    The only way I see us winning on Saturday is if our defense comes through for us. If they can force fumbles and force passes to intercept and our D can score 2 TDs, we have a good shot at a win.

    Sadly, we cannot rely on our offense to do anything at this point. We hear the same song that they are working on getting better and I am sure they are. However, I feel there must be something systemic or a deeper issue with our offense that just isn’t going to work this season no matter how good they look in practice.

  25. Bryson October 13, 2015 10:03 am

    Why can’t Norm have the same type of class as Spurrier and just admit the game has passed him by and resign…for the sake of All involved go out with some dignity Norm and please retire as to not further tarnish your reputation as a great offensive mind and not run Hawai’i football further into the ground

  26. Inyoface October 13, 2015 10:04 am

    I miss the days when we put up 45+ points on the board. Game clock management is boring and so are 3 and outs! I say we will lose this next game, first time I’ve ever said that, oh well.

  27. Bryson October 13, 2015 10:05 am

    It looks like we are going on a 3rd season in which a special teams player will be voted most valuable player…if that doesn’t tell the story of how bad things are then I don’t know what will

  28. Inyoface October 13, 2015 10:17 am

    Chow has stepped down! Oh wait that was just a dream.

  29. Rodney October 13, 2015 10:29 am

    Hawaii 24 New Mexico 21
    Call the coach show should
    be interesting.

  30. H-Man October 13, 2015 11:01 am

    The problem is not our defense. It’s our offense that cannot sustain drives. So the defense is on the field too often without enough time on the sidelines to catch their breath. And the longer New Mexico has their offense on the field, they are being handed more opportunities to run the clock and score. To win, Hawaii’s offense has to show up.

    Read about Spurrier’s decision to resign:

  31. H-Man October 13, 2015 11:04 am

    My prediction: Haw 14 – New Mexico 35.
    Reason: Warriors are travel weary, just plain tired and buss-up, and playing at high altitude will suck their strength, whatever they have left.

  32. Willie October 13, 2015 11:22 am

    #30H-Man, thanks for the link. I admired Spurrier as a player and as a coach, and now as a man with great intestinal fortitude aka “balls”. Nothing more needs to be said.

  33. Willie October 13, 2015 11:28 am

    My prediction is for a lower scoring close game based on the Lobos offensive playbook. If UH could not simulate the basic I formation of SDSU in practice, how will they fare to get the D up to speed versus the triple option? Sheer determination and pride will help, but at the end all that travel and altitude will be too much.

    17 – 16 in favor of the home team, Lobos by 1.

  34. jeezy33 October 13, 2015 11:40 am

    31. Apparently you missed the first 2 drives of the game in which defense couldn’t stop simple run plays.

    Hawaii is in the bottom of the country in yards given up per game.

  35. Bryson October 13, 2015 11:43 am

    Jeezy can you look up the stats for what defense has been on the field the most cause I guarantee Hawaii would be tops in that category…If your defense is on the field for more plays than your offense and your not winning then the defense isn’t the problem…

  36. A-House October 13, 2015 11:51 am

    the PA system near our seats have not been working for many years now – I did see the $$$ presentation near the South end zone, but had ne idea it was a $150,000 check to UH from the Stadium Authority – I’m glad that happened

    now, its time for the Hawaii Travel Bureau to step up and the State Legislature to fund the UH BOR budget which includes $3 million to cover travel subsidies, etc.

    btw, what does it take to be a “platinum” donor to UH? I guess my checks do not have enough zeros – maybe someday!

  37. A-House October 13, 2015 11:57 am

    I miss the days when more than 40,000 fans would jam into Aloha Stadium regardless who the opponent was

    they did not play the Alabamas or Ohio State or Wisconsin ( wait – how can I forget a RB called Dayne ) – UH played some very good teams like Nebraska, USC, Oklahoma, etc. but it was the other no-name teams where we all gathered to cheer

    I’m getting to be old and may never see a nearly full stadium cheering UH against whomever they played – but many good memories to go with me!

  38. Come on, man! October 13, 2015 12:04 pm

    Bryson: Hawaii is dead last in time of possession but time of possession isn’t necessarily all that meaningful because it’s not a first order football statistic. Time of possession is a byproduct of EFFICIENCY of both a team’s offense and defense capabilities.

    Also, time of possession certainly wasn’t a factor during SDSU’s quick two touchdowns at the start of the first half.

    Hawaii’s offense is atrocious and an affront to the football gods. Hawaii’s defense is mediocre. There’s basically not a single thing UH does well on the football field as a team aside from punt.

    It’s funny how time zones and miles logged on frequent flier cards are only an issue when a team is losing.

  39. Old School Dave October 13, 2015 12:08 pm

    The story I recall was of Coach Johnson getting heckled by unhappy UH fans on his way to the press box at Aloha Stadium. People were saying unkind things about his offense and how boring it way, along with telling him to “get out of town.” After it happening one too many times, Johnson turned around and told his heckler, “Maybe I will get out of town.” Johnson, Kenny, and Mike Sewak did leave UH after that year (a year before Coach Wags got fired) and the rest is history.

  40. SteveM October 13, 2015 12:15 pm

    The triple option took Hawaii to their first bowl game. The Run & Shoot took us to our first BCS bowl. They made “under-sized” players famous.

    ohaibill — welcome to the blog!
    I did not like the way Coach Wagner was just thrown out the door. Poor treatment for the man who finally beat arch rival BYU–twice– and took us to our first bowl game. But he was a victim of his own success–he had raised fan expectations high with BYU wins and a bowl, and he did not get us back there for a few years. By his success, Paul Johnson and a lot of his staff were hired away to other schools and Wag’s cupboard was very bare in his final year. (I worked with the wife of a coach who was a low level assistant who got promoted to coordinator in the last year). Nevertheless, I think Bob Wagner should be recognized as one of the greatest coaches in UH history.

    Fans wanted Coach Mack out, especially when we missed the Hawaii Bowl by one game in his last year.
    So here we are again.
    Be careful what you wish for…

  41. Former UH Athlete October 13, 2015 12:21 pm

    The talking afternoon radio heads said wait and see how UH plays against teams closer to their talent level. I agreed with them regarding withholding judgment based on the first five games. Because Ohio St, Boise and Wisconsin were complete mismatches.

    Now that I’ve seen them play a team of comparable talent and it was pathetic.

    The offense is still totally awful and our fears of the defense getting worn down and beat up is coming to fruition. UH clearly does not have the same defensive unit that started decent vs CU and performed admirably vs Ohio St (holding OSU to 17 pts thru 3 quarters).

    Wittek has been erratic and the pass protection has been poor. Prognosis does not look good. I have zero confidence in Woosley. He did ok on Saturday but he wasn’t asked to make any difficult throws. Woosley’s been in the system 3+ seasons and had all of last season and parts of 2013 to prove himself and he lost the starting job within weeks of Wittek becoming eligible.

    If UH loses Saturday, I would like to see the better of Zwahlen or Reilly get some reps, but if Chow’s still the coach, he’s not going to play inexperienced players while he is coaching for his job.

    UH doesn’t have the stones to fire a coach mid season, so it looks like we have to root for a wounded and inaccurate Wittek or an inaccurate Woosley the rest of the way. I expect the defense to continue to fade as the injuries pile up and the fatigue of being in the field way too long.

  42. Former UH Athlete October 13, 2015 12:25 pm


    We were heading down this road with Mack still here. Granted UH wouldn’t be this bad, but with his lack of recruiting prowess, UH would be scraping to get to 5 wins. If not for 2 NFL WRs Jones recruited (Salad, Pilares), it’s likely Mack fails to make a single bowl game (maybe 2010 because the defense had a ton of experience). Time has proven that the WRs made the RnS work, not necessarily the QB.

  43. rundown808 October 13, 2015 12:40 pm

    Sometimes you just get tired of hearing, seeing, and saying the samething. You have to know when to do what’s best for someone else. Not yourself. Because it’s not about you.

  44. H-Man October 13, 2015 12:45 pm

    The speakers in my area works, but the problem with the PA system is that they overdrive the speakers causing high distortion. Sometimes difficult to understand what the person-speaker is saying especially when they are yelling. No need to yell. Want more volume? Increase the amplifier’s amplitude control, but not too much so as to overdrive the speakers.

  45. jeezy33 October 13, 2015 12:47 pm

    35. I’m sure you’re right. I’m not giving the offense a pass by any means. They have been horrendous. But to say the defense has been good is completely false too. We have been collectively bad on both sides of the ball. Defense hasn’t been forcing 3 and outs. Defense hasn’t forced many turnovers. Defense has been giving up early scores forcing Hawaii to have to pass a little more than they would like to.

    Lot of the issues I believe has been our OLBs inability to set the edge. Every time we took the middle away, RB cuts it outside for big gains. Kinda bad when you know a team is going to run 80% of the plays and can’t stop a simple scheme.

  46. Old School Dave October 13, 2015 12:59 pm

    Coach Wagner is still up there for his accomplishments – Beating BYU 3 times, winning the (old) WAC, getting invited to and winning a mainland bowl game over an Illinois team that had a number of future NFL players, finishing nationally ranked. Reading his book, “Getting the Edge” he talks about the commitment other WAC schools were starting to take in upgrading their football programs. He also mentioned some of the same problems that continue to plague UH today – lagging assistant salaries, poor facilities, stagnant funding and fund raising, being told to “just win” and “get by with what we give you.” Not to mention ridiculous admission standards that hurt recruiting by those who wanted UH to somehow become the “Stanford of the Pacific.” Some things never change.

  47. Willie October 13, 2015 1:25 pm

    #46OSD, the challenges you note just hit the nail on the head. Dunno if it is too late to catch up. That is why when you have a stacked deck, innovative offenses brought by Paul Johnson and June Jones helps to level the playing field and thus their proven successes are still legendary.

  48. WarriorNY October 13, 2015 1:34 pm

    Hey guys, I’m compiling the scores now… I know SteveM and Pomai are much better at it than me… Good Luck to everyone….

  49. ALLAN October 13, 2015 1:44 pm


  50. A View From Afar October 13, 2015 1:49 pm

    NM 24 – 13 UH

  51. Down with... October 13, 2015 2:09 pm

    ….More cowbell please!

  52. oneseason October 13, 2015 2:14 pm

    UH 28 – NM 20 … Hoping for the best.

  53. Ipu Man October 13, 2015 2:15 pm

    How does coach “hard ball” turn the Michigan team into winners…
    in his first year? Surely, UH can hope for the same…

  54. jimmy the lock October 13, 2015 2:29 pm

    Complaints, whining, whatever you want to call goes hand in hand with losing. Keep losing, keep complaining.

  55. Buffoman October 13, 2015 2:40 pm

    Hmmmm, this blog has people whine and complain when winning is not “exciting” or winning does not pass enough but too much running and defense.

    We like to whine and complain. Happiness is fleeting and short lived.

  56. kev-1 October 13, 2015 2:46 pm

    wow post #80 from yesterday … stop your whining about the whining already.

    Some people are nicer than others when it comes to criticism. We know who we are.

  57. kev-1 October 13, 2015 2:47 pm

    ST, your post about defending the option is making me nervous.

  58. Willie October 13, 2015 2:56 pm

    #53 Ipu Man, for one “hard ball” has a bunch of experience and success as a head coach. He knows how to administer, recruit, coach and just win baby. Second the “cupboard” was not empty in Michigan, filled with 4 & 5 star recruits, all-American types. Key here is experience and demonstrated success.

    Maybe as you noted, UH can hope for the same with the next coach. Many people have brought up the fact that in 20+ years of applying for head coaching gigs, UH is the 1st one Chow got. Perhaps all of those AD’s and GM’s that did not select him knew something that the “power brokers” at UH failed to recognize.

  59. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 2:56 pm

    Yea Kev-1…seems like maybe the excuses are…here b-4 the game..?

  60. JustAsking October 13, 2015 2:59 pm

    #51: He has a fever!!!!!!

  61. jimmy the lock October 13, 2015 3:08 pm

    Buffoman, I hear ya. If never had complaints there wouldn’t be that many posts. 😆 Here’s to all the arm-chair QB’s and coaches out there, this Bud’s for you.

    Gotta rename the blog “Warrior Beat Complaint Department”

    Funny when things go bad all the good memories of yesteryear come out.

  62. Jeezy33 October 13, 2015 3:13 pm


    1. Not to sound cliche but you change the culture of the football team you are taking over.

    2. Hire good assistants.

    3. Form an identity, bring in philosophy and make sure whole team is on the same page.

    4. Leadership

    Unreal when coach can make an impact that soon but when you can inherit pretty good talent and bring in the 4 things I mentioned above, it’s possible.

    The one issue for Hawaii when next coach takes over is the cupboard will be empty for the most part. So recruiting year 1 will need to include a bunch of JUcos like June Jones did his first season. We’re thin at QB. Not many quality WRs. Not too deep at Oline.

  63. SC October 13, 2015 3:16 pm

    Under Coach Norm Chow, Hawaii has won only one road game.

    Altitude will be a factor for Hawaii’s defense line as the depth chart is lacking on the road.

    Bob Davie is a better coach and he will figure out the weakness of Hawaii’s defense.

  64. Shoko October 13, 2015 3:17 pm

    Here’s Davies’ weekly pressers (25 minutes).

    Here’s Chow’s weekly presser (4.45 minutes).

    When you compare both, NM’s pressers look like a DI program where UH’s look like what you would see in high school. Need to change when the next coach is hired.

  65. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 3:31 pm

    We all have to admit that the 3 loses to OSU…Badgers… n Boise…they they were over-matched if the term is correct…

    But so were very many other UH teams…1990 … vs. BYU #4 team in the nation…
    lost to UH 59-28…with the Heisman trophy QB Detmer…

    Enthusiasm… motivation…momentum…has a lot to do with winning…mentally have to be ready…walking on the field arm in arm…is not going to do it…guess was a hard lesson learned…

    Screaming AT UR FELLOW COACHES…is a lesson to be learned also…it brings chaos between players n their position coach…with the head coach….not a good formula 4 winning…

    Last year…we had a AD…. that took great pleasure it seemed like… to be sure to come out with sum weekly negative thing to say about the sport…etc…you cant expect to have a young adult to strap it up…knowing he was not fully supported…
    in his efforts…

    IMHO…Max should rest 4 two weeks… n let Ikaika or Reilly or the Z man take the snaps…Max was healthy the first game…n he did fairly well n we won….but since them…not so good…if he is injured n can’t ‘plant’… he should sit…be interesting to see ST N WHAT HE REPORTS ON WHO IS TAKING THE SNAPS THIS WEEK…
    Me always want to think they will win…but that is not reality…odds makers agree with most…the ‘shins n altitude’ should do us in….

  66. mctruck October 13, 2015 3:52 pm

    Word on the street is out; JJ and UH AD seen huddling at sports bar just recently.

    just joking….wanted to relieve da stress of wishing for change.

  67. Shoko October 13, 2015 4:14 pm

    I think Matlin is going to give Chow every chance to make a bowl game but if he gets three more losses by months end (2-7) guaranteeing no chance for a Hawaii Bowl, Chow will be released.

  68. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 4:15 pm

    Is a good one mctruck…at least is positive…4 us whiners he he he…

  69. cocobean October 13, 2015 4:43 pm

    I asked this before and no knows for sure. Is our QB allowed to audible and change the play the coach has signaled in?

  70. cocobean October 13, 2015 4:51 pm

    I always go brain dead right before kick offs. I always think this is the game we turn things around and get a win or at least have a chance to win even when we’re a big underdog. Right now I’m not sure if we can beat NM but if you ask me right before kickoff I’ll probably tell you we’ll win, this is the game when the team puts it all together.

  71. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 4:51 pm

    Good question coco… hope u get an answer soon… maybe sumone will ask that question on one of the talk shows etc… n leave answer in here for us all to see …

  72. Da Punchbowl Kid October 13, 2015 5:01 pm

    In other news –

    State Rep. Isaac Choy, the Manoa Democrat who had headed House Higher Education Committee for the past four years, in a UH BOR meeting:

    On the issue of sports, Choy said UH should drop trying to get the budget to balance and instead just subsidize it. He said the teams should be funded by the Legislature as part of the regular two-year budget request.

    “Athletics should be a budget line item; I don’t think athletics will ever break even,” Choy said in an interview.”

  73. Da Punchbowl Kid October 13, 2015 5:01 pm

    Go Warriors!!!

  74. nutmegger October 13, 2015 5:05 pm

    #70 cocobean
    Gotta believe we can win. I expect I will feel the same just before kickoff.

  75. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 5:15 pm

    The coach’s show is at 6 pm. I’m sure each of you will call.

  76. usedtobeafannotanymore October 13, 2015 5:18 pm

    Would UH be an upgrade or lateral move for Dino Babers? Just wondering who could revive a moribund program.

  77. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 5:19 pm

    Is a long distance 4 me…hope sumone does call n get through…with his question…n his reply…

  78. Come on, man! October 13, 2015 5:19 pm

    “Athletics should be a budget line item; I don’t think athletics will ever break even,” Choy said in an interview.”

    this is stating the obvious. a vast majority of college athletic departments are in the red, except for the large football powers, like alabama.

  79. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 5:21 pm

    Re: Counts.
    It’s not comments that matter, it’s views. The views are always high. I could shut off the comments to the public and just show pictures and the views would be the same. To keep things I perspective: It’s not about me, and it’s not about you. UH football sells, whether they win or not.

  80. truegreen October 13, 2015 5:22 pm

    No sense calling. They screen all calls and only let the softball questions through.

  81. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 5:24 pm

    I don’t think they screen. But if they do, just go down and talk to Chow. He’s accessible.

  82. 3-Prong October 13, 2015 5:26 pm

    The whole concept of the Stadium Authority making a donation to the athletic program makes no sende to me. The money should belong to the department to begin with. It should be the other way around. The athletic department should be funding a Stadium Authority to run the place within a certain budget. ALL surplusses should go toward athletic endeavors. Why does the Stadium Authority need to make a profit?

  83. st. anthony trojan October 13, 2015 5:33 pm

    Thanks truegreen… probably so.. n also maybe on delay basis like most talk shows…so the bad stuff can get shutdown… but can hope for the best huh…

    Well is true football sells… but a consistent bad coached team (in ne sport) does not sell season tickets…or at the gate…but free stuff will be viewed…00ps time 4 lunch….good luck ur question coco…

  84. wow laulau. October 13, 2015 5:38 pm

    “It’s not comments that matter, it’s views. The views are always high. I could shut off the comments to the public and just show pictures and the views would be the same. ”

    wow. views are the only thing that matters in terms of justifying the existence of the blog, but are we sure the blog will have as much traffic as it does now without the comment section? you don’t think that a not insignificant amount of page hits are from people who are interested mainly in the comments section and the online community? the views on this site is entirely content driven?

  85. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 5:41 pm

    I don’t think they screen or delay. After Saturday’s game, someone got away with an F bomb on the air.

  86. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 6:02 pm

    I do encourage people to express their views.
    In fact, there are only two people on the “Spam” list — One is a guy who threatened people, the other is a guy who’s cray-cray. Obviously, we can’t put up with people who threaten. And I’m not putting up with a crazy person (who still attempts to post, sometimes up to 25 times a day, but can’t get past the filter). Other than that, if somebody’s comment is going through moderation, that’s because the filter has questions.
    Every so often, I have to step in because, well, sometimes people need a little guidance. For instance, if a person says he likes peanut butter, well, that’s nice. But you can’t say that eight times in eight different ways every day. It’s still nice, but let’s say we’re at a party and somebody says the same thing over and over. That’s when we pretend we received an emergency call and bolt. It doesn’t mean the comment is not valid, but every so often we have to move along.
    It’s also important to create an atmosphere where everyone feels comfortable to comment. Nobody’s opinion is stupid — OK, that’s not true, there are a lot of stupid opinions — but we have to be respectful so people can feel free to participate. Look around and notice how many people have left the room.
    Anyway, you’re all great, love you all, and let’s play nicely.

  87. oneseason October 13, 2015 6:16 pm

    If whining fans click more than marginally satisfied fans …
    hmmm … could explain a lot.

  88. Jeezy33 October 13, 2015 6:19 pm

    86. Good point. When Chow repeats “we don’t make any excuses” on the air 5 times a show, itvstarts to be overkill.

  89. Jeezy33 October 13, 2015 6:29 pm

    We’re traveling 62 guys tho week. “It’s not an excuse”


    Warning: do not play drinking game while listening to call the coach every time you hear the word excuse. It will end your night quick

  90. Moocher October 13, 2015 6:30 pm

    #85 Mr. Tsai…
    It was a MoFo F bomb on the call in show after the game on Saturday night…I heard that one all the way in Singapore 🙂

    Yeah, fan base is not happy. I’d like to see a change. I do understand this is a pretty delicate situation. Although in my opinion, it’s bowl or bust…and looking bust. Being realistic, Chow’s teams have never built an identity. And sad to say but I now see a losing tradition where the fire and will and imposing will to command and demand a win seems to just not be there. We’ve all accepted “it’s ok, get em next time, try again next week, give them time, those teams are better than us, wait till we play teams at our level….”

    What level do we think we should be winning at? I’m not knocking players, I see the individual effort. I’m just waiting to see the cohesive team effort. And that takes a coach. I don’t think Chow will ever get a cohesive, lock step, one mentality, one will team. And I don’t think he will ever get that because it seems his leadership/management style is just not the type that people gravitate to.

    But hey…..,I don’t know, I’m not there 🙂

  91. Moocher October 13, 2015 6:37 pm

    It just seems like Chow is more “Nintendo Tecmo Bowl” when he needs to be more “Madden”.

    Bad enough Aloha stadium is pre-Tecmo Bowl.

  92. oneseason October 13, 2015 6:39 pm

    90 … funny thing was that the guy that dropped the f-bomb was insulting a “whiner” … the “whiner” was rude and out of line, but he wasn’t the f-bomber.

  93. Moocher October 13, 2015 6:41 pm

    …and I still think Hawaii should build a stadium on the water, in Pearl Harbour?
    This was built in 2007 in Singapore and has a 30,000 seating capacity.

  94. 3-Prong October 13, 2015 6:58 pm

    Everybody take a chill pill. The coaching situation will take care of itself based on the win/loss record at the end of the season. Blog comments, last I checked, did not carry much weight in the upper campus.

    ….and on top of that, I prefer wining with a good Oregon Pinot. hehe

  95. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 13, 2015 7:11 pm

    Chow was asked about the QB making audibles and he said yes.

    Chow was asked why he has failed to recruit and groom a QB and instead has gone with patch jobs from Duke, THE Ohio State and now USC…Chow’s headset wasn’t working and Bobby forgot to relay the question.

    Unless the format has changed since I used to go, they pump in the radio show so the entire audience can hear callers via loudspeakers. If he just took off his headset, he should be able to hear everything.

  96. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 13, 2015 7:15 pm

    The f-bomb dude was none other than the infamous Mike from Waimanalo. He is somewhat of a legend among the UH sports blogging and radio community.

    Brother is intense about UH. Sometimes a tad bit too intense. But he is funny as heck.

  97. Da Punchbowl Kid October 13, 2015 7:51 pm

    #78 – Yes – he is stating the obvious. We all know that. The question is, what will the BOR and Leg. do about it? What will Rep. Choy do about it?

  98. Come on, Man! October 13, 2015 8:17 pm

    “Yes – he is stating the obvious. We all know that. The question is, what will the BOR and Leg. do about it? What will Rep. Choy do about it?”

    probably nothing. what exactly are the ramifications of the UH athletic dept deficit?

  99. winning October 13, 2015 10:21 pm

    RIGHT ON #40! TO #82- The guys that work there want the piece of the State of Hawaii Pie like every one else. Easy money and retirement. You know, the secret appointments.

  100. Markazulu October 13, 2015 10:27 pm

    On a positive note I loved the effort from Dakota Torres at te.

  101. winning October 13, 2015 10:41 pm

    error. not 40 but #46. happens to basketball and others.

  102. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 10:46 pm

    I remember watching Dakota Torres playing dodgeball with the kids at the Boys & Girls Club. He was athletic, he had a good attitude. But he was so low on the depth chart, I figured it would be a while. But every practice he started making plays. The first day of scouts, they gave him a yellow jersey. The next day, he was back in white. He worked hard with Naeole on blocking. He’s proof that hard work pays off.

  103. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 10:50 pm

    By the way, I don’t find anything honorable about Spurrier quitting now. If he wants to retire/resign at the end of the year to start the search early, that’s fine. But leaving a program is, essentially, waving the white flag on the season. It’s a disservice to the seniors and to the players he left behind. Should the players say: OK, we’re not winning this year, let’s all quit now. I think he should get his okole back to practice and finish this thing out.

  104. hitmanhart October 13, 2015 10:56 pm

    aloha everyone ST are we taking 4 qb’s on this road trip ? and howz max knees ?

  105. kev-1 October 13, 2015 11:10 pm

    I would like to add a positive.

    Just watched Inside Access from yesterday and I must say, I LOVE the attitude of Julian Gener. That kid is all heart. Gotta love it.

  106. Stephen Tsai October 13, 2015 11:25 pm

    Wittek will be fine. No decision yet on QBs — they brought four to Ohio State and Wisconsin and three to Boise — but I can see Zwahlen going as an emergency.

  107. hitmanhart October 13, 2015 11:31 pm

    Julian Gener cut by eye was from the game?

  108. SteveM October 13, 2015 11:32 pm

    RE: #84
    wow laulau — there was a time (starting spring 2007) that many people commented here and the hit count was extremely high. We did not always talk football, but that was what drew us together. ST allowed the original 5 F’s: Football, Food, Family, Friends, and Fun. We kinda ran amok in the food and fun area but ST has a sense of humor.

    The blog was fun and informative. Need to know where the best Bubbling Tofu soup was in Honolulu? Ask the blog. The blog was “Google” before it existed. The jokes and jabs were funny– never drink liquids in front of your computer on the blog or you will spray it on your monitor and keyboard. The Tsai-kos formed and a community developed. Word spread and the number of viewers increased. Many lurkers never comment, but to date there have been 4,010 blog commenters…maybe a hundred or so are aliases but 275 are on the mainland or in other countries.

    As a computer/internet guy back in 2006, blogs were a relatively new thing and I noticed people saying they were on the mainland. The international reach of this blog interested me so I asked ST for permission to solicit blog names and their cities (outside Hawaii). 275 responded over the years and the early responders who found that they lived close together actually got together to meet, often at Away Games. Here’s proof of the 275…

    Anyway, a lot mainland names don’t post often anymore because it is not fun or interesting… especially when the majority of comments is a back seat driver view of UH athletic management and who should be fired. Well, I did seeWarriorNY, hawnstln, mctruck, Shoko and PONO post recently and that most of the Lo-Cal (lower CA) Tsai-kos will be going to Vegas. I do know that many lurk yet.

    … to paraphrase ST’s #79, they will come to see what someone who knows the facts and what he is talking (or not talking) about has to say…which is him. The blog will get a view hit from thousands, there is no data on whether the viewer bothers to read the comments.

  109. hitmanhart October 13, 2015 11:33 pm

    thanks ST , great photo on here and tv show !!

  110. SteveM October 13, 2015 11:44 pm

    BTW, if you are going to the UH-UNLV game, please post here or email me your ETA/ETD and hotel in Las Vegas.
    Akamai Okole and (J)James are looking for Tsai-kos for the usual mischief, Friday night party, tailgate, post-game meal get-together, etc. 🙂

  111. Cheryl S October 14, 2015 12:42 am

    Funny you should bring up the triple option. I’ve always thought it would be a great system for the UH. You can use smaller, faster O linemen. Unlike the run&shoot, it’s harder to blitz against and receivers are seldom double covered. Ball control is emphasized so your defense stays off the field longer and theirs stays on the field and wears itself out. Plus it’s fun to watch.

    Worst thing UH ever did was fire Wags and Johnson. Just saying.

  112. Maddog50 October 14, 2015 3:34 am

    Ok so they have to travel, so what get over it-everyone does
    Ok it is at 5300 ft so what
    Ok we have injuries-they do to
    I do not recall coaches dropping balls, missing blocks, missing tackles, making errant throws etc
    This is your team, you accepted a scholarship to play football…..take ownership and play to your potential. A potential I know you have.
    My unwavering support will be there Sat yelling my a** off in support of your effort.
    Go out and give one hell of an effort, after all this is your team take control-Go Warriors!!!!

  113. cappie the dog October 14, 2015 5:36 am

    The triple option.

    I love Navy.

    Every time Navy wins, it helps my argument that this is what Hawaii should be running.

    (With all due respect to Norm Chow. I look at Chow’s resume and I am unwilling to attack this coach so viciously. My only criticism is that I think he should give the keys to the offensive coordinator and let him drive the car. The analogue being, I watched Steven Ventimillia take the first two pitches for strikes for four seasons and it never worked. I’m a quiet guy, but at one game I spazzed out and shouted: “Swing at the first strike! Try it!!!”) Ventimillia should have been a pro prospect.)

    But I digress.

    For a perenially undersized team, this offense is the great equalizer.

    Even Garrett Gabriel had success running Johnson’s offense.

    It was always surprising to see Gabriel so high on the passing efficency list.

    I remember Coach Wagner quipping: “I didn’t realize he was that good.”


    Hawaii 45
    New Mexico 38

  114. cappie the dog October 14, 2015 5:40 am


    I think if Bowling Green wins out, Babers could be a dark horse candidate for the South Carolina job.

    Surely, the Toledo coach is on their radar.

  115. cappie the dog October 14, 2015 5:44 am


    A caller once called Gary Dickman “a f*****’ a******” on “The Sports Animals” show.

  116. Maddog50 October 14, 2015 5:50 am

    I told a friend of mine a former Illini player and booster-don’t be surprised if your next coach is Dino Babers-he said “who?” Illinois is not far from Charleston IL where he spent a few years and also not far from where he is now. If I’m a betting man he will be in orange again very soon-

  117. Come on, Man! October 14, 2015 6:02 am

    “For a perenially undersized team, [the triple option] is the great equalizer.”

    most modern spread offenses do the same. Also, when you’re down in the game, the triple option is difficult to mount comebacks, especially against high scoring spread no huddle offenses that are in vogue right now.

    and by using the triple option, good luck on landing that explosive high caliber quarterback or wide receiver recruit. the reason why the service academies run the triple option is because they’re at a major MAJOR recruiting disadvantage.

  118. 3-Prong October 14, 2015 6:20 am

    Can someone explain the cut block rule as far as when it is acceptable and when its not. Can linemen in the block cut block? Are they not allowed only when the defender is engaged with another player? Can linemen cut block going downfield for dbs? When and where can receivers cut block?

  119. Ipu Man October 14, 2015 8:44 am

    Hope the coach empties his bench this time.
    Let the kids play.

  120. Willie October 14, 2015 9:02 am

    #103ST, that is one opinion and yours, like you have said everyone is entitled to one.

    The guy has had a stellar 35+ years of coaching at both the college and NFL levels. All kinds of success and allocades in college, including one National Championship. Perhaps he felt that stepping away was the best for the team as he said that the losses and problems was all on him. This was a way to deflect all the blame to him, give the team a fresh start. Who knows they all may rally around each other with a cause and salvage the season.

    I sure don’t know if my opinion is correct, but then how do you think that your opinion is any more right?

  121. Willie October 14, 2015 9:07 am

    That last part should be that I do not think that your opinion is any more right.

  122. wow October 14, 2015 9:16 am

    #119, 120 Where did ST say he thought his opinion is as you say “any more right” ?

  123. Willie October 14, 2015 9:40 am

    #121, he did not, I am just saying that these are two different ways to look at it. It notes that I do not think his is any more right than mine. Do you read something different, this is what it says. Well?

  124. rundown808 October 14, 2015 10:16 am

    Players like Pumphrey only expose our LB and the lack of speed and skill to stop him. He is that dual threat player. Not the biggest, fastest, but agile, strong runner, good hands, and play maker. Hes a package. He is no doubt a Boss when he comes to the line. The great thing about players like this is you play your best player against him. There’s your test. A LB that can keep up laterally. It was always a thrill to watch Ray Rice smash the opponent. But if you watch him move he moved just as fast as the receivers. Being chased down by a mac truck is not my idea of fun and games it’s down right terrifying.
    Our O struggles to score lacking the obvious speed, size, skill, etc… That was exposed vs OH and Wis. However, a talented coach knows how to work with what he’s got. I find it hard to believe with new coaches on board we cannot seem to fix the problem. We cannot make excuses. Not at this level or time. That is why there is camp and practices.
    People come out to support the team. However, with the obvious on the field. Much of the questions lie on the sidelines. Many people are angered, fustrated, or discontent with the outcome. But many agree, just fix it. Fresh eyes is a good thing and might bring new insight to the game. But if those eyes are not allowed to be opened then we are stuck doing the same thing repeatedly. Every coach has his way but there comes a time where you have to say, it’s not about me. It’s about the team and the group of players who come out to give their heart and souls on the field. To the staff that serves the HC with one thing in mind. To win. To the fans who come out to support their home team. At the end of the day, it’s not the NFL, Collegiate coach, or OC, we are looking for. It’s the HC who knows exactly what to do, when to do it, and who can get it done. Sometimes you should be bigger than your circumstances. This is not about you but the unleashing the potential of others. Good luck to the players on Saturday.

  125. z October 14, 2015 10:22 am

    103. So that would be your message to JJ?

  126. wow October 14, 2015 10:23 am

    #122, lol, that is what you should have posted. Read what you posted again …
    ok, so you noted “his is any more right than mine.”, so why did this point have to be made? hence my previous question, .

  127. Tempmanoa October 14, 2015 10:43 am

    Woolsey’s stats from last year overall adjusted for strength of schedule are a shade ahead ov Wittek’s. And in his best games, Woolsey is far in front of Wittek and Wittek has had some “easy games” vs Colorado, SDSU, and Cal Davis. where his stats and QBR ratings are mediocre. Well ahead of Wittek was Schroeder who consistently had better ratings than Wittek. You can chalk that up to learning to play real games after sitting for so long, learning Bailey’s offense, and bad play by the receivers– although Wittek makes his own share of mistakes.

  128. Maddog50 October 14, 2015 11:34 am

    Simple me-I just want a win-

  129. Stephen Tsai October 14, 2015 11:37 am

    New post:

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