Comments on: Wednesday checkin, Top 25 https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/ Fri, 06 Nov 2015 04:25:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Cindy Luis https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625573 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 04:24:38 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625573 good points all but the bottom line is stats are stats. good for comparison and discussion
But the only stat that matters is W-L

Thursday scores up at
http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34090

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By: Doug https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625569 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 04:12:38 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625569 #21-27# thank you, great insight and points of view.
Go wahines!

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By: tako https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625558 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 03:34:52 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625558 All things being even, good and big normally prevails, however, reality spells otherwise. The equalizing factor or the separator is how do you measure, character, heart and Aloha, how do these factors translate into wins. IMO, we are blessed to have a great Coach and players that possess the intangibles that factored in so many exciting down to the wire wins over so many decades. Many a time we were the smaller and good team that went beyond. Loved the character, heart and Aloha of players like the Emily Hartongs and the Tais of this world…they are great role models for the next generation of Wahine. -go bows

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By: tongo https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625531 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 01:53:04 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625531 CSUN athletics show their Men Soccer Team having a match going on Saturday night also. Maybe, UH can catch a little break this year – hoping most of the students go to the soccer match instead. For whatever reason, our ladies do not play well in that small gym – but this year will be different. We are going to revenge last year’s loss there.

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By: Maverick https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625524 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 01:32:23 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625524 20-23. Tongo is right on the money. I think that Doug was trying to provide context around the “best blocking team” label (even Cindy’s counterpoint is supportive of Doug’s comment). So let’s look at a more complete set of blocking stats comparing UH and Penn State across non-conference (N), conference (C) and all (A) opponents (figures are for total blocks, total sets played and blocks/set):

UH
N 126.0, 40, 3.15
C 127.5, 34, 3.75
A 253.5, 74, 3.43

PSU
N 113.0, 33, 3.39
C 139.0, 46, 3.02
A 252.0, 79, 3.19

At the conclusion of the non-conference season, PSU has more blocks/set than UH. UH played a tougher non-conf schedule, evidenced in part by its 75th ranked non-conf SOS versus PSU’s 146th ranked non-conf SOS. Also, UH played more sets non-conf than PSU (who swept all their non-con matches while UH played 5 four-set matches and one five-setter), indicating relatively more difficult schedule of opponents (you can also review PSU’s non-con opponents to see the only good team they played was Stanford). I believe UH was ranked in the top 10 of blocking teams by the end of the non-con schedule, but PSU was higher.

However, once the conference season began, PSU’s opponents were more difficult and UH’s were less difficult. This is shown by the dramatic rise in UH’s blk/set and the decrease in PSU’s (and the eye test of opponents in the respective conferences). Clearly, UH was playing shorter, less challenging teams than in the preseason, and PSU was playing taller, better teams. Now UH is the leading blocking team but PSU is still #3.

So the stats support what I believe Doug was trying to say, but also tango’s view that UH is a strong blocking team despite playing Big West opponents.

The more interesting debate is what does it mean to be the “best blocking team”? Not necessarily the team that has the most blocks/set, because competition plays a big part in that statistic. For example, if 20-1 Arkansas State had the highest blk/set stat, many people would challenge the idea that ARSt. is the best blocking team based on who they played (you’d see a lot of, “wait until they play a Pac12/Big10 opponent”). I don’t have a good answer for who is the “best” blocking team is (I guess it would help if all teams played each other, but that is impractical), but maybe another blog poster does.

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By: Doug https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625516 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 01:09:20 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625516 I am a die hard Wahine fan also. Lobby for Kendra to play more, sad when Megan left. Big and good always beats small and good. sorry.

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By: tongo https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625509 Fri, 06 Nov 2015 00:55:26 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625509 #20 Yeah, I think most of us know that blocking success is relative to the competition. Nevertheless, blocking is a strong cornerstone and they will have their fair share of success even against the bigger/stronger hitters from Pac 12 or B10. IMO, our blocking success will depend a lot on our serving, which has been good this year. In either case, will be attending both matches and expecting a large UH fan base to show up.

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By: Cindy Luis https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625373 Thu, 05 Nov 2015 19:54:42 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625373 20. agree with 21. their blocking stats not only based on BWC matches. to mention the Pac-12 or BTen is meaningless because there is no way to make a true comparison.
UH is averaging 3.43 bps overall, 3.75 bps in Big West, which got lowered when having just 4.5 against Fullerton.

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By: tako https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625362 Thu, 05 Nov 2015 19:00:20 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625362 Felt compelled to jump on this one. I am a U of H fan. And do NOT feel the need to view the Pac12 or others. This team did not lobby for the accolade, they earned it and NOT just ONLY ’cause BW opponents. JMO, this team is 20-1 and earned every win. Hoping for more and that’s the focus, not looking to make apologies for things accomplished. As a fan based blog, recommend looking for ways to support the team. Long Beach will be a tough BW match. -Go Wahine

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By: Doug https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/wednesday-checkin-8/#comment-2625344 Thu, 05 Nov 2015 17:42:34 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=34068#comment-2625344 Best blocking team in the nation? Yes, because of the big West opponents. But Watch Pac12 and BTN teams, reality check time. Sorry folks.

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