Comments on: Top 4 seeds: Stanford, UW, Texas, Wisconsin; Hawaii to UW

By: wildcard

wildcard — Sat, 06 Dec 2014 21:18:54 +0000

68. uh became fodder for uw? surely you jest. what a joke!

By: Pot-of-Gold

Pot-of-Gold — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 17:26:34 +0000

96. High N Wide, they are ranked higher, have had better success against top rated teams, so yes Hawaii should be concerned. That said, the 6PM PST time slot is 9PM Duke time, meaning that by games end, their body clocks will be on shutdown mode, advantage Hawaii (think about that advantage should Hawaii win Friday night for the next night against WSU (if WSU wins), a 10PM PST start time.) . Both team seem to start out slow, so this match may be won in the first set, the team better prepared to take that initial set won’t have to come from behind.

By: Pot-of-Gold

Pot-of-Gold — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:36:30 +0000

Cubicle1126, no not the same poster. I appreciate that there are varying circumstances to the final selection and well before the selection orbitalripz made a call about the WCC conference getting more recognition. As for the Big10, they sift out some of their selection in intra-divisional play in itself. There was a significant difference in the level of play between the top 4 and the rest, so they got a bonus 2 selections due to last seasons success. If you know that there is that dropoff and the RPI’s don’t enhance that line, then the Big 10 had to drop selection numbers.

It is obvious that we aren’t going to agree, no problems, go wahine. That we can agree upon.

By: High N Wide

High N Wide — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 03:51:28 +0000

Maybe it’s time to eat my shoes…. but is anyone afraid of the Blue Devils like me??

By: Maverick

Maverick — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 01:32:19 +0000

You have to be careful about translating two UH wins into an RPI ranking. The ranking will also depend on how other teams ranked above and below them perform, and against which teams’ W-L records. UH played at 2-25 (now 2-26) Riverside team that was going to have a depressing effect on UH’s RPI. If other teams around UH’s RPI ranking from last week won and played competition with superior W-L records, then UH’s RPI position will likely drop. Also note that the difference in RPI ranks is not linear–a team ranked 30th could a much higher RPI value than those ranked 31 and 32, while 31 and 32 could be close together in RPI value or far apart. I haven’t analyzed the teams ranked around UH last week, but I do know for a fact that last year, UH dropped in the RPI after winning against Riverside at the end of the year (again, UCR had a very poor W-L record last year).

I also looked into Lipscomb’s W-L and opponents’ winning percentage: 21-8 (.724) and 518-384 (.574). UH’s are 21-6 (.778) and 424-364 (.538). We all know opponents’ winning percentage is 50% of the RPI value, so you can see how Lipscomb has a higher RPI ranking (the opponents’ opponents’ W-L records are almost the same, but UH a tad higher). This is all math–doesn’t mean Lipscomb played better competition, it just means Lipscomb played competition with collectively better record than UH’s competition. And Lipscomb being 31 vs. UH at 39 doesn’t mean Lipscomb is a lot better than UH–compared to the top 10 RPIs, you see a greater difference between #1 and #10 than you do between #31 and #39.

If you followed all of this, then you should come to the same conclusion as I do: RPI is a flawed calculation for determining how talented/strong a team is.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 00:19:20 +0000

92. Surprised about Lipscomb as well. their RPI went up to 31.
and Hawaii down to 39?
Only signature win by the Bisons that I could see was 3-1 vs. No. 22 Kansas first week of the season. Guess the 3-2 win over Northern Kentucky in the A-Sun semifinal impressed folks.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 02 Dec 2014 00:12:38 +0000

84. not enough time to book Monday. they’re trying to get out Tuesday afternoon.

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 19:50:39 +0000

orbitalripz and pot-of-gold — same poster? lol

alright, fine … if, as both of you say, the committee is, in large part, basing this year’s selections on last year’s results in the NCAA tournament, then…

how do you explain the atlantic sun conference getting 2 bids this year — the automatic (jacksonville) and an at-large bid (lipscomb)? what about about jacksonville’s ‘one-and-done’ result last year earned its conference 2 bids this year?

and why then was the big-10’s allotment of teams reduced from 8 bids last year, to just 6 bids this year? recall that the big-10 had 7 teams in the sweet-16 last year, they made up half of last year’s elite-8, and it was an all-big-10 championship final.

isn’t it more likely that the teams met the criteria for selection given to the committee by the NCAA?

(regardless of whether we agree with that criteria, and the over-reliance on RPI … in any case, “prior year’s results” is not one of those criteria.)

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 19:36:00 +0000

thanks. it’s up on new thread. was late after practice and interview with Taylor.

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Mon, 01 Dec 2014 19:32:16 +0000

big west all-conference awards just released …

hawaii has 5 players honored: adolpho, magill, olevao, and taylor on the first team, and greeley on the all-frosh team.

it was an lbsu sweep of the major awards: hudson (POY), gimmilaro (COY), and murray (FOY).

http://www.bigwest.org//story.asp?story_id=18122