Comments on: Sand pairs 3-16, 3 UH teams into quarters

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 02:26:38 +0000

31. see new thread on rules
I guess they are established but it’s only 2 weekends. If Tiegs’ back continues to be a problem, they likely go with the tandems they used Sunday.

By: WhyWhat

WhyWhat — Tue, 18 Mar 2014 01:42:05 +0000

Understood Cindy. Someone previously mentioned conceding the 1st flight by putting #3 Longo/Long in the first flight therefore dropping #1 Cook and Tiegs. What I was arguing was that, that type of “strategy” might be against the rules, especially since Cook and Tiegs have already established themselves as the #1 UH team.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 22:39:17 +0000

There are rules in place to prevent ‘sandbagging’
There’s also something about not switching your teams up during a tournament, except for injury, which is what happened when Tiegs was not able to play late Saturday and they moved up Riggs to 1, used Tucker, etc.
Wong said that because they had started the pairs tournament Saturday without Tiegs (first round was Saturday) She could not return for Sunday.

By: lkapulani

lkapulani — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:56:04 +0000

like i said…..r u calling do coach a cheater????????????? any team can do it……………if dey dont………datz dere prob………….at dis level…………coaches get paid 4 winning……..and uh is 5 1nd 1…………ea coach can do da same…………a coach would rather go 1 and 1…rather than 0 and 2??????????? wat would rather be if u were da coach………….and ur job is depending on it……..again itz stategy………………like i said earlier………..i believe rosters are turned in to officials an hour prior to da dual matches………..u can correct me about dat……….i apologize if i am mistaken……..if true ea coach does not know wat da oder coach did…………..dont know about u………again………. i wood rather b 1 and 1……….rather dan 0 and 2…..and keep my job…………….

By: WhyWhat

WhyWhat — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:04:23 +0000

Same logic. Placing your number 1 team down in the line up portraying they aren’t as good as they really are is the same thing… Why do you use golf??? Try tennis almost the same format as SV and they have rules to prevent “sandbagging”

By: WhyWhat

WhyWhat — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:57:45 +0000

But come on… Switching #3 Long/Long with #1 Cook/Tieggs……………………….
Really……………… Thats obvious. And if you think that should happen then your argument is with SW for not doing it…………………….

By: lkapulani

lkapulani — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 20:14:45 +0000

#26 exactly……………and if a coach believes dat

#26………….exactly………..if a coach feels da #3 team is playing better than #1 at da time of a dual or tourn……………den he/she may change da order according to their ability at dat specific time…….it is still called strategy and not sand bagging……….da coach must turn in rosters i believe an hour prior to matches………..ea coach does not know what the other coach has done……….sandbagging is wen a low handicapped golfer plays bad on purpose prior to a tourn for a few rdz and turnz in these higher scores to their hdcp chairman to raise their hdcp for dat upcoming tourn so they my participate with a higher hdcp and take advantage of da field……………..datz sandbagging……………oooopsssssssssss sorry…………..datz cheating………r calling coaches stategies…………… cheating?

By: WhyWhat

WhyWhat — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 07:15:48 +0000

Found this on the AVCA site.

Players must play in order of ability. The line-up shall always be based on order of ability.
“Matching up” is prohibited. Players must compete in order of ability with the best
doubles team on the team playing at the No. 1 position, the second best at No. 2, and so
on through all positions.

By: WhyWhat

WhyWhat — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 06:56:15 +0000

I assumed there were rules in place to prevent sandbagging like in college tennis. But since SV is a relatively new sport I guess there are no rules in place to prevent it?? not sure. IF it’s so smart why isn’t everyone playing there 1’s and 2’s in the 3/4/5 positions… Is SW not being “smart”?

By: formerlywarriorfan

formerlywarriorfan — Mon, 17 Mar 2014 06:27:59 +0000

Yes and to many of us it’s not a big “no no”.
To me it’s just being smart and doing what you can to get an advantage and ultimately win.