Comments on: Hawaii remains unranked, stays at 30 in RPI https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/ Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:06:55 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: OrbitalRipZ https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577607 Wed, 19 Nov 2014 09:06:55 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577607 Since most of the focus is on the Pac-12 squads, it was good to read comments on Ohio by Cubicle (6). Do I agree? Nope, just thought the UH scheduler got lucky with this one. When all is said and done, it is always better to schedule a tried and true, such as a Pac-12 school.

Here’s the list of Hawai’i’s nonconference opponents and their Standings:

MAC/MID-AMERICAN CONFERENCE (12 schools):
Ohio (23-4, 16-0 conf) is the #1 seed in this weekend’s MAC CHAMPIONSHIP tournament for the NCAA automatic bid.

Good, Bad, or Ugly scheduling? Good. … Whoever scheduled Ohio vs UH for this year deserves a pat on the back, though it helps to know that Ohio was last year’s regular-conference champion and the #1 seed also.
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BIG EAST (10 schools):
St. John’s (19-12, 8-8 conf) is in 6th position in the Standings. Butler, St. John’s and Xavier are the only 3 teams mathematically alive for the final remaining BIG EAST Championship berth. Whichever squad captures the berth will be next weekend’s tournament’s 4th seed.

Good, Bad, or Ugly? Bad, since it’s a long-shot that St. John’s will even qualify for the Big East Championship tournament, much less the NCAA Championship tournament.
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WCC/WEST COAST CONFERENCE (10 schools):
San Francisco (12-16, 5-11 conf) usually is in the upper half of the WCC but not this year. BYU (22-4, 13-2) earns the NCAA automatic, but at-large bids could go to LMU (22-5. 10-5) and possibly a third [Santa Clara (20-9, 10-6) ] but don’t think a 4th WCC team. San Francisco is second to last in the Standings. Scheduler had the right idea, just chose the wrong team for this year.

Good, Bad, or Ugly? Ugly.
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MWC/MOUNTAIN WEST CONFERENCE (11 schools):
Whose bright idea was it to schedule 3 MWC teams?

New Mexico (18-11, 10-6 conf) is currently 4th in the standings — after Colorado St/26-2, UNLV/24-6, and Wyoming/21-7. Good, Bad, or Ugly? Bad.

San Diego State (13-13, 8-7 conf) is currently tied for 6th. Good, Bad, or Ugly? Ugly

Utah State (12-14, 8-7 conf) is currently tied for 6th. Good, Bad, or Ugly? Ugly.

FYI: Colorado State can clinch at least a share of the Mountain West title on Wednesday. It would mark the program’s 6th-consecutive conference championship, and 12th in the league’s 16-year history. Bet you didn’t know that entering 2014, CSU and UH were the only D1 teams to win (or share) their conference title each of the past five seasons. Wouldn’t be a bit surprised if the these 2 schools meet in the subregionals.
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PAC-12 (12 schools):

Oregon (19-7, 9-7 conf) is currently tied for 4th in Pac-12 standings.
Good, Bad, or Ugly? Good. Easily earns an at-large bid to the NCAA Championship.

UCLA (17-9, 8-7 conf) is 6th.
Good, Bad, or Ugly? Good.

Arizona State (17-11, 7-9) is tied for 7th (along with USC and Oregon State).
Good, Bad, or Ugly? In between Good and Bad. If ASU stays at 7th in the conference standings, it can expect an at-large bid to the Really Big Show.

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By: heluhelu https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577583 Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:04:57 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577583 10 Yes. That’s why RPI shouldn’t be conflated with “strength of schedule” as I so often hear. It’s strength of record, both yours & your opponents. Maybe someday this millennium NCAA will apply last millennium tools to “adjust winning percentage(s)”.

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By: Cindy Luis https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577563 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 21:39:46 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577563 Key word: projection. Hawaii wins out, they will get into the tournament. but their ‘seed’ could be in the lower 30s.
Hawaii can only control what they can control which is winning and losing. how their opponents and opponents’ opponents fair is out of their hands.
We’ve been saying for years that the RPI is biased towards the BCS or Big Five or whatever it’s called nowadays.

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By: vbfan https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577542 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:38:32 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577542 #11 That projection has Hawaii losing another game to finish with an RPI of 39. I believe Rich Kern did another projection that has Hawaii winning out and their RPI will be at 35.

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By: Cubicle1126 https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577538 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:18:39 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577538 there is an RPI projection on VT that shows hawaii may finish the season with an RPI of 39, which would put them on the bubble to make the tournament. still a strong likelihood they would be in, but an RPI that low is “bubble” territory.

important to win out. put ucsb and davis away in these last 2 weeks. because playing riverside and cal poly will definitely hurt the RPI.

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By: Cubicle1126 https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577535 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 18:56:17 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577535 heluhelu — florida st and north carolina just have really good RPI schedules. the RPI does not care “who” you beat or what their “rankings” are. what matters for the RPI is playing teams that have good win/loss records. that’s the bottom line.

florida st’s non-conference opponents all have positive win/loss records. and all but 2 of north carolina’s non-conference opponents have positive win/loss records. with RPI’s regional bias, it’s much easier to schedule teams on the east coast (or at least from the midwest on) that have good win/loss records, just for the simple fact that there are more schools out there, and thus a larger pool of teams to schedule from.

that’s why, for hawaii’s RPI — it’s critical to invite schools here from the midwest and east coast, to diversify hawaii’s non-conference schedule. this year, ohio was a great team to schedule. ohio is 23-4 on the season. ohio does more to prop up hawaii’s RPI than does the pac-12 schools, b/c the middle-of-the-pack pac-12 schools all beat up on each and give each other losses.

hawaii played ucla, oregon and arizona st this year. during the preseason, ucla went 9-2, oregon 10-0, and arizona st was 10-2. all great win/loss records for hawaii’s RPI (even though hawaii lost to all 3 of them). BUT since the pac-12 season started, they’ve all suffered losses in a deep/brutal conference. ucla is now 18-9, oregon is 19-7, and arizona st is 17-11. as they rack up losses in the pac-12, hawaii’s RPI gets dragged down too.

of course, it’s not all due to the pac-12. the big west has some stinkers that hawaii has to play as well (like uc riverside, fullerton and cal poly). and at the end of the day, if the pac-12 schools maintain a winning record overall, that will still help hawaii’s RPI. playing pac-12 teams offers a competitive match that will make hawaii better, but unless your playing the teams at the top of the pac-12 standings, they’re not always the best in terms of an RPI boost.

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By: heluhelu https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577522 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:38:50 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577522 Also want to blow more pilau over east coast hootenanny. Who did North Carolina & Florida State beat to keep their RPI bubble aloft so long? A young, rebuilding Nebraska way back in August? Tar Heels even worse, but don’t tell that to Giamellaro, who is surely milking THAT win.

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By: heluhelu https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577520 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 17:11:53 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577520 Beach sweeps costly, but Gauchos revenge would be even costlier. Wahine gotta put them down. Please.

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By: Cindy Luis https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577495 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:22:47 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577495 My thought is that even if UW beats Stanford in the teams only meeting Stanford gets the top seed as Pac 12 champ Only way that changes is if Stanford loses another match Cardinal No. 1 in RPI

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By: wildcard https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/volleyshots/hawaii-remains-unranked-2/#comment-2577494 Tue, 18 Nov 2014 08:19:53 +0000 http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=26059#comment-2577494 usc still ranked on avca and 20 on rpi despite losing massively and losing to a ‘weakling’ cal and washington only drops 3 from losing twice. aint that ridiculous? avca and ncaa has some favoritism it seems no matter how a teams performance.

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