Comments on: Friday-Saturday practice, Croson update, no practice Sunday

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 20:03:04 +0000

i think i remember that story on Mink. and don’t mind me, i find irony in odd places.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 19:00:33 +0000

In reply to Cubicle1126. Don't find it ironic She was from that area One of the first things she did for athletics was to get tennis courts built in Waipahu To clarify She said that she didn't foresee title Ix applied to athletics the way it has been I should give a link to that story We did a weeklong series in 2002

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 18:35:07 +0000

Cindy — I would say that what or however Title IX was intended, it has become synonymous with ‘gender equity.’ Because when you look at it, at its most basic, Title IX bars genders discrimination in education. Gender discrimination lawsuits in education are nearly always brought under Title IX. There are now even legal theories on how men can potentially make a gender discrimination claim using Title IX. That’s probably another aspect of the use of the law that Congresswomen Mink would be really surprised by. And given what you’ve said about her early thoughts on Title IX, it’s a little ironic then that an athletic complex/park in central Oahu was named after her. Maybe the more apt thing to name after her would have been a school instead…

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 16:45:17 +0000

38. Thank you for your take on Title IX. agree. my point was that it’s the gender equity requirement that drives the compliance. Title IX set the base. However, if you go back to the very start of Title IX, and I spoke with the late Patsy Mink before her passing in a story back in 2002, this was an educational law. This was to make sure that institutions stopped discriminating against women (and by race, religion, etc) when it came to admission to school. The reason Mrs. Mink went into law was because she was denied admission to medical school, based on her gender. And schools did not hide the fact that they denied the applications because she was a woman.
She was surprised how it ended up being used so powerfully in athletics.
Was just saying that people use the term Title IX when they should be using gender equity.

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:01:09 +0000

Cindy — I disagree. I’m sure Title IX’s influence still applies to the scenarios being bounced around here. The fact is that scholarships in a given sport where both men and women play aren’t equal (see Bowsfan’s post). Even in basketball — where revenues from the men’s game supports the women’s game and other non-revenue sports — the men get fewer scholarships than the women. We all know, of course, that football throws all the scholarships numbers for a loop. But Title IX’s mandate, in part, results in the disparity in the scholarship numbers in the other sports. Why? Because Title IX is also more than just a equity requirement; the law that has flowed out of the courts and later legislation require, among other things, proportionality with enrollment and with the interest of the genders. Compliance with this, as well as the large demands of collegiate football, have influenced the scholarship levels/numbers of other sports. Any change in those numbers, as is being discussed here, would also necessarily implicate a review for Title IX compliance.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 05:16:13 +0000

8. thanks.
35. you can find all the ‘outlooks’ on uhathletics.com on the volleyball page.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Tue, 19 Aug 2014 05:14:59 +0000

23. Don’t think it’s ‘obvious’ at all that people on scholarship won’t be on scholarship next year. True that scholarships are renewed every year but Shoji isn’t known to ‘pull’ scholarships.
31. Actually it’s not Title IX, which mandates equality in institutions receiving federal funds. What is being applied is gender equity in terms of the number of playing opportunities offered.
34. You are correct.
35. yes, mentioned that the first day of practice.

By: mei mei

mei mei — Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:30:17 +0000

thx 3 for the photo link – i see Longo is a “student” assistant… nice !

there is certainly some athletic girls w/ height! luv it!

By: rayson

rayson — Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:29:56 +0000

There was an attempt to increase the number of women’s volleyball scholarships from 12 to 13 back in 2005. If I remember correctly, it was adopted by the NCAA Board of Directors but then overturned by a membership vote at the 2006 convention.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Mon, 18 Aug 2014 21:25:32 +0000

26. Again, Beeman’s job is not to help volleyball. Her job is to have the best team in her sport. And those are her scholarships to use. That Takahara-Dias agreed on Adolpho and Beeman continued the agreement was a gift for volleyball.
28. I think you’ll see Koelsch getting playing time so it’s not a waste of a year.
30. Thank you for getting to that first.
29. Non-football playing schools, like the rest of the Big West, still have the same numbers of scholarships. But agree that indoor volleyball should get at least 13, what Shoji has wanted for a while. 12 for position players, 1 for a libero.