Comments on: 11-11 Rise of the Wahine on neighbor islands

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 02:45:14 +0000

In reply to po'okela. I put down soft commit because it's a non-binding oral from a junior. it's the term the paper uses. we also use oral, not verbal, commit. nothing to do with how long Shoji intends to stay.

By: po'okela

po'okela — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 02:36:42 +0000

a soft commit means there’s a possibility the recruit may change their mind in the future; however im not quite sure why cindy would differentiate between the two because neither a soft or a solid verbal are binding or GUARANTEED until an NLI is signed and the student is accepted.

could you please chime in cindy. does that have anything to do with dave’s uncertainty of how long he will still be coaching for?

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:57:11 +0000

cindy — what do you mean when you use the term “soft commit” for iosia … as the term can, apparently, carry different meanings for recruiting purposes

By: rayson

rayson — Thu, 13 Nov 2014 01:47:39 +0000

Speaking of the men’s volleyball team. They just announced an exhibition match on November 25 at 7 pm against NorCal Premier . Tickets on sale now.

http://hawaiiathletics.com/news/2014/11/12/MVB_1112141122.aspx?path=mvball

By: heluhelu

heluhelu — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:17:26 +0000

#7 “…*not* how athletic budgets [work]”; “Every conference [mandates]…”

By: heluhelu

heluhelu — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 19:14:18 +0000

#5 True. Though even when MVB was revenue positive, this fan felt budget better spent on expanding/improving WVB recruiting, facilities, student services etc (I know that’s *not* how athletic budgets works). Hard to take a sport like MVB or its rankings seriously when only 30-or-so teams compete. Are MVB fans misogynists who only attend MVB matches at SSA? Don’t know. Don’t think so. One site reported MVB lost $247,000 (expenses $780,602; revenue $533,276) according to their most recent data, whereas WVB hit black again earning $117,000 (expenses $1.19 million; revenue $1.31 million) [link http://bit.ly/1ECwOCE ].

#6 Seems that way, but this site suggests perception not always = reality. Manoa spent $16,269,502 on men’s teams, received $10,749,971 in revenue with male athletes receiving an avg of $14,023 in sports related student aid. Women? $8,085,505 spent, $4,062,526 received, $9,166 per in related student aid [link http://bit.ly/1zkiwnd ]. Plus, it’s not as if UH can slash/burn teams at will. Every conference mandate x number of teams/sports from both genders to maintain membership.

By: warriorfan

warriorfan — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 04:19:07 +0000

I don’t think mens volleyball loses much though, on the other hand,womens basketball, soccer and softball together, probably loses over 2 million anually for UHAD.

By: Cindy Luis

Cindy Luis — Wed, 12 Nov 2014 02:54:46 +0000

As you point out, it’s not just the non-revenue women’s sports but the non-revenue men’s sports that football (and women’s volleyball) helps cover. Men’s volleyball has been in the plus-side in the past. not sure if it is now.

By: AdmrVT

AdmrVT — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 22:04:23 +0000

Granted that all the current trials and tribulations at UH are the result of a number of different “factors,” it would be ironic if the UH athletic program fails because UH football cannot generate enough revenue and there is not enough financial support of the athletic program to cover the cost of funding Title IX at UH?

Wonder what is costs to cover the expenses of the women’s non-revenue sports? Aside from volleyball, I assume all of the other womens’ sports do not generate any net revenue — so football needs to fund both the non-revenue men’s and women’s sports.

By: Cubicle1126

Cubicle1126 — Tue, 11 Nov 2014 21:39:15 +0000

the intent of the the Rise of the Wahine film was always to tell the story of congresswoman mink and donis thompson.

that said, there was also a lot of attention given to the early days of wahine volleyball. the volleyball program was just vehicle in which to tell mink and thompson’s story.