Wahine RPI up to 39

Think there’s hope.
Dave Shoji thought so this morning via text. He’s on vacation in Italy watching sons play.
Hawaii’s opponents ahead of them
13. Utah Lost 3-1
14. Baylor W 3-2
18. BYU L 3-2
19. Cal Poly L 3-2 2x
20. San Diego L 3-0
24. UCLA L 3-2
34. Marquette L 3-2 (thank you to No. 1 comment)

UC Irvine dropped to 78


  1. abacaxi November 20, 2017 9:32 am

    Add 32. Marquette.

  2. H-Man November 20, 2017 9:34 am

    With an RPI of 39, I too think the Wahine are in.

  3. Warriorfan November 20, 2017 9:37 am

    I Wonder what needs to happen for the wahine to move up into the safe zone(32-33)

    Baylor beating texas so they can secure a seed, ucla winning at oregon state and at usc , marquette winning the big east tournament would all help.

  4. Warriorfan November 20, 2017 9:38 am

    Worst case scenario wahine rpi drops 3-5 spots, so crossing finngers they move up 3-5 spots instead.

  5. ManoaFan November 20, 2017 9:55 am

    Haven’t posted for a while, but that is amazing to move up to 39! Hope all Wahine opponents do well this week so that the RPI can even get better! I’m so happy for this mornings ranking. Of course if we get in we may draw like Stanford or Texas but that would be exciting too. A great way to prove we belong and show how we’ve grown… and to show how Natasha now plays a bigger part in our success.

  6. Cindy Luis November 20, 2017 10:21 am

    1. thanks. for some reason forgot Marquette.
    Will know more about Greeley tomorrow. Team has the day off and they’re taking a look at her left knee. Believe she had a previous MCL tear on that knee as well as a rolled left ankle.

    Penn State unanimous No. 1. No change in top 6

  7. Warriorfan November 20, 2017 10:49 am

    I sense a rematch with san diego in the first round at USC subregional.
    That San Diego loss was clearly the wahine’s worst loss of the season but hawaii is a totally different team now with Iosia hitting in the front row, Maafala setting and Burns in the lineup.

  8. Kaimukian November 20, 2017 10:59 am

    Wow, that’s great news for the Wahine, perhaps I should visit VT more often lol. Still can’t seem to figure out the RPI system though..Do the ranked teams we LOST to positively affect our ranking? I was under the impression that only the teams we beat boost us up? What would it take for us to climb this next week, or slip for that matter. Anyway, great news and hope that’s enough to get to the tourney, fingers crossed!

  9. Brandon November 20, 2017 11:07 am

    8. Team we beat boost us up more in the Selection committees eyes, so in a sense yes, its way better for us, but anyone else, correct me if im wrong, regardless if we beat them or not, when out opponents win, it helps us the same, regardless if we beat them or lost to them.

    So at this point, all of our opponents winning will help us

  10. noblesol November 20, 2017 11:07 am

    Hawaii at RPI 39 this week. Hope indeed. But, this is still the un-adjusted RPI and with a week of important matches to go. It’s the final adjusted RPI, overall resume, and nitty-gritty that will be before the committee. So, at the moment chances are good for UH, but there are matches to play that could help or hurt those chances. For instance, Texas at Baylor on Saturday. A win by Baylor would put a shiny star on the UH resume for its one top 25 win, and on the margin help the RPI. Pull for Marquette and Creighton to be in the Big East final on Saturday, and for Marquette to win. Pull for the teams with RPI six ahead or behind of UH to lose any remaining matches; e.g. pull for Ohio State to lose to Maryland (Wednesday match) and Illinois (Saturday). Pull for any the Big West teams with any remaining out-of-conference matches to win out, e.g. UC Davis at Colorado State (Saturday). Pull for any non-conference team that UH has played to win out their remaining matches (it helps with UH strength of schedule and RPI.)

  11. Warriorfan November 20, 2017 11:21 am

    Plus pull for oregon state to lose to both ucla and Oregon to keeep them out of the top 25 rpi and keep north texas well below the wahine for at large consideration.
    Pull for Northern Iowa or missouri state to win the missouri valley tournament and not a team that will be a bid stealer.

  12. noblesol November 20, 2017 11:57 am

    11. Good catches. Probably others out there. I’m guessing it’s better for UH if Missouri State wins the MVC tourney over UNI; it would be an exception to my six up or six down from UH, let ’em all lose rule.

  13. Warriorfan November 20, 2017 12:36 pm

    Hope UH announces the mens signings soon, they have announced nearly every other sport except mens volleyball.

  14. Optimist November 20, 2017 12:48 pm

    Six more to go!

  15. Mo November 20, 2017 1:17 pm

    Longtime reader; occasional poster. Sorry if I missed this somewhere: historically where has Wahine RPI tended to be, especially since recent move to Big West?

  16. noblesol November 20, 2017 3:40 pm

    15. UH Final Selection Adjusted RPI-Year (joined Big West in 2012):
    17-2012; 17-2013; 39-2014; 26-2015; 23-2016

  17. cappie the dog November 20, 2017 4:30 pm

    Jennifer Hurt.

    Val Agee.

    God, that 1992-1993 team got hosed by the committee headed up by UCLA AD Judith Holland.

    The Na Wahine had two home wins against nationally-ranked UNLV.

    Vince Goo, I remember, was prepared to quit, because he felt his sex was being held against him.

    That was the last year the tournament had a 48-team format.

    And Judith Holland actually was a candidate to replace the late Stan Sheriff. Vince Goo, I think, said that if she made the final cut, he would fling his body off the Pali Lookout.

    Hurt and Agee were very good post-players. I felt very bad for them.

    The NCAA owes Hawaii.

    RPI matters.

  18. noblesol November 20, 2017 4:30 pm

    15. For context relative to the Big West Conference ranking those years:
    9th-2012; 8th-2013; 8th-2014; 14th-2015; 13th-2016

    – Current 2017 RPI Futures projections (final selection, adjusted): Hawaii-38; Big West-10
    – Using current RPI Futures projections, I see eleven conferences filling out the RPI top 32 (P12; B10; B12; SEC; ACC; WCC; BE; AAC; BW; C-USA; MW). There are 32 AQs, so that leaves the committee room for eleven at-large bids coming from the teams with Final Selection RPI weaker than 32 and that aren’t already AQs.

  19. islandman November 20, 2017 5:42 pm

    16… To add to that, in 2014, UH was 2nd in the Big West, 13-3 to LBSU at 16-0.
    We lost to LBSU two times in 5 sets and to 3rd place CSUN in three sets.
    We were selected to the NCAA’s that year as an at-large team.

  20. noblesol November 20, 2017 7:16 pm

    10. Update: Ohio State must win its final two matches this week to finish over .500 on the season. If they don’t win out, they can’t qualify for the tournament. Ohio State plays Maryland on Wednesday, and they host Illinois on Saturday. Best scenario for Hawaii is Ohio State wins over Maryland, and loses to Illinois. Maryland plays two more matches as well; best scenario for Hawaii is Maryland loses to Ohio State on Wednesday, and Northwestern on Friday.

  21. cappie the dog November 20, 2017 8:38 pm

    Is “VolleyMob” a credible site?

    Last Eight In

    1. Ohio State
    2. Washington State
    3. Florida State
    4. North Carolina
    5. Missouri
    6. Marquette
    7. North Texas
    8. Hawaii

    Then there is a CUT LINE, and the teams below the cut line are: Temple, Iowa, LSU, SMU, Maryland, California, Duke, and Auburn.

  22. noblesol November 20, 2017 9:16 pm

    21. The article you referenced doesn’t appear to use any of the known criteria the selection committee uses. No mention of RPI, top 25 wins, strength of schedule, strength of non-conference schedule, last 10, strength of conference, etc. Instead they provide a heavy dose of what teams have done the last week or so and whether they meet the volleymob criteria, whatever that is. Their first of eight on their list, Ohio State, has lost three straight and has to win out over Maryland and Illinois to even get above the .500 cut line, and are currently sitting at RPI 42 (adjusted) in the nitty gritty. That they would put Ohio St. first of eight on their list, isn’t highly credible IMO. Right now they don’t even qualify to make the cut.

  23. Warriorfan November 20, 2017 9:24 pm

    listing North Carolina makes that volleymob site lose all credibility.

  24. Big Island volleyball fan November 20, 2017 9:54 pm

    Please, excuse me, Cindy, but I don’t understand your RPI list. You said that Utah lost 3-1 and then down the list Cal Poly lost 3-2 2x. However, neither team lost this weekend. This whole list sounds so cryptic. What did you mean by all those W’s and L’s? Sorry I lost you there. Can you explain your cryptic code there?

  25. nomu November 20, 2017 10:22 pm

    Best wishes for Greeley, hope to hear good news soon.

    Congratulations to Wahine for their strong finish and earning well deserved consideration for the post season.

  26. cruisecontrol November 20, 2017 10:30 pm

    24. That’s Hawaii’s record against those teams.

  27. po’okela November 20, 2017 10:31 pm

    #24 big island

    she’s referencing that we LOST to both of them. we lost to utah 3-1 and cal poly 3-2 BOTH times (2x)

  28. cruisecontrol November 20, 2017 10:31 pm

    17. Every time I hear the name Judith Holland, my blood starts to boil.

  29. Cubicle No More ... November 20, 2017 11:38 pm

    Big Island volleyball fan — Cindy is listing hawaii’s result against those teams during the season.

  30. Souljah November 21, 2017 4:08 am

    Anyone know where to find online replays of the last two matches? UHVolleyballToo hasn’t uploaded them. Thanks!

  31. Cindy Luis November 21, 2017 4:30 am

    thank you all for replying to BIVBF about what I meant regarding who UH lost to. (and the one win over Baylor)

    Personally I think Hawaii is in but then I wouldn’t be surprised if NCAA had an explanation as to why they weren’t selected.
    At this point, nothing else Hawaii can do but wait.

    as for the men’s signings … it will be released when it is released. and will put it up when it is.

  32. setaone November 21, 2017 5:47 am

    One thing that I always wished would have happened, is that the NCAA gives explanations for the reasonings why the last 4 hosts schools were seeded, reasons why the next 4 were not seeded, the reasons why the last four teams got in, and the reasons why the last 4 teams did not get in. I feel this holds the committee accountable and gives teams objectives when scheduling.

    Doesn’t need to be during the broadcast, but in a statement soon after.

  33. Ron November 21, 2017 7:32 am

    I am not holding my breath for the NCAA to give us a break, but based upon what you more analytical bloggers say, we have earned it. Also looking forward to the Men’s season. We will be in the chase. As far as sand goes I am very impressed with what I saw and I have been watching since Kathy Gregory was the best female on the beach.

  34. rabbit ears November 21, 2017 8:13 am

    Gotta get Lea Monkhead for indoors next year. She looks like the real deal.

  35. H-Man November 21, 2017 10:09 am

    By my simplistic assessment, Wahine will get in as the 28th ranked at-large team based on a RPI of 39. This is even considering if VCU loses to Dayton. The team that causes an impact to the bottom is Washington St. Their RPI went up to 37 from 42 when they beat Oregon. Wazu still has to play Arizona St and Washington. Personally, I feel Washington St’s current record of 16-14 overall/5-13 conference record is not good enough, but…..

  36. Warriorfan November 21, 2017 10:21 am

    Unfortunateu wazzu has two more quality wins than UH, they won 3 out of 15 top 25 rpi matches which is a terrible percentage the wahine have won 1 of 6 however if the wahine had more chances they probably would win 3 matches just like wazzu also possibly more with how much they have improved!!

  37. Warriorfan November 21, 2017 10:56 am

    Mobkhouse looked good and hits a very heavy ball but I don’t think she can go on an indoor scholarship until after her sophomore year, unless she is a walk on for the beach team, which I doubt.
    Also like Cindy mentioned perhaps she does not want to play indoor she is someone that I could see representing canada in beach volleyball for the Olympics someday.

  38. idk November 21, 2017 12:06 pm

    Clearly I’m bored…
    I think some form of the combinations below can bring home a championship.

    1/2 – Maglio 6’3/ Weaver 5’11
    2/1 – Martin 6’1/ Schucht 5’9
    3 – Monkhouse 6’0/ Bunn 6’0
    4 – Zalopany 5’9/ Napolean 5’7
    5 – Kan 5’9/ Homayun 5’8 / Ozee 6’1

    1/2 – Maglio 6’3/ Bunn 6’0
    2/1 – Martin 6’1/ Schucht 5’9
    3 – Monkhouse 6’0/ Napolean 5’7
    4 – Kan 5’9/ Homayun 5’8
    5 – Ozee 6’1/Zalopany 5’9

    1 – Martin 6’1/ Bunn 6’0
    2 – Maglio 6’3/ Weaver 5’11
    3 – Monkhouse 6’0/ Schuct 5’9
    4 – Zalopany 5’9/ Napolean 5’7
    5 – Homayun 5’9/ Kan 5’8/ Ozee 6’1

  39. Warriorfan November 21, 2017 1:13 pm

    I think it’s more likely Fitterer makes a move to the top 5 pairs over Bunn.

  40. idk November 21, 2017 1:23 pm

    Does she even have experience playing beach?

  41. Warriorfan November 21, 2017 1:43 pm

    I don’t think Jeff Hall would have taken her for only one year if she didn’t have any beach experience.
    I don’t see bunn movinng to the first couple of flights this year at all (maybe in the future)

  42. Big Island volleyball fan November 21, 2017 1:48 pm

    26, 26, 29 & 31: Thank you all for responding to my question about wins and losses. I should have figured this out for myself, but I was so focused on the team next to those numbers, I didn’t think that it related to UH. Still I hope that UH can make it to the playoffs. As both a Cal Poly and UH fan I had really hoped for a tie for first place in the Big West and had originally shared this thought with Torrey van Winden when I met her this last summer at Mott Gym (I am a Cal Poly alumnae).

  43. idk November 21, 2017 2:01 pm

    Ok, even though you don’t even know if she has any experience at all playing beach… and we can only assume…I’ll give you that. But just asking out of curiosity…. why would you then also assume Fitterer be ahead of Bunn?

    Ps. There was also a bit of gamesmanship when I was stacking these flights. I Personally don’t thing Bunn Is one of our top players, but I don’t Think UH has a good enough Pair to compete with the rest of the number 1 flights, WITHOUT disrupting the pairings 2-5. I chose these pairings because I believe that UH can win at the very least 3 out of the 5 pairs.

  44. Warriorfan November 21, 2017 2:22 pm

    There’s no more Claes and Hughes so whoever ends up number one( probably Martin and someone) will have as good a chance as any UH pair to win a point.

  45. Warriorfan November 21, 2017 2:30 pm

    I honestly think Martin/Schucht or Martin/Homayun could beat any of the number one pairs from usc, pepperdine or FSU this upcoming season.
    They will have a size disadvantage against usc and Pepperdine though and maybe cal poly with the van windens. But not against ucla the Mcnamara twins are just 5’9 and sponcil is 5’10.

  46. idk November 21, 2017 2:35 pm

    You’re missing a key point that I pointed out. Im sure Maglio and Martin can do just fine at the number 1s spot, but then it takes away from the lower flights, then the question begs, who plays at flight 2 and so on.

    Ps. because I know nothing on Fitterer, I wouldn’t just pencil her in just cuz Hall brought her in. FYI, Hall brought in pretty much everyone thats on the team. (im typing this and its sounding like its coming off rude, but trust me its not:))

  47. idk November 21, 2017 2:37 pm

    46. I strongly disagree.

  48. idk November 21, 2017 2:53 pm

    looks like the comment numbers are off.

    I strongly disagree that Martin/Homayun or Martin Schuct can beat the number one pairs of USC, PEP, and FSU. and thats not me not having faith, its me being realistic, imo of course.

  49. rabbit ears November 21, 2017 3:08 pm

    Seems like Jeff Hall is a good recruiter like Charlie Wade.

  50. Cindy Luis November 21, 2017 4:30 pm

    new thread up for Tuesday. Greeley is out

    as for beach, their schedule supposed to be release tomorrow (Wednesday) will post when it is
    Martin out with a shoulder
    Hall won’t look at pairings until spring when he has indoor joining them.

    42. this is manini but
    either you are an alumnus (male) or alumna (female). Alumnae is feminine plural
    Alumni is masculine plural and when both genders are combined.

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