Happy Thanksgiving

Hope everyone enjoying the holiday. working in the office then covering Wahine basketball on Friday

VB team has next few days off. They haven’t decided yet if they are practicing Saturday
As mentioned previously, NCAA selection show Sunday 4 p.m. ESPNU

ICYM T25 from Wednesday
2) Texas def. Oklahoma 25-18, 25-20, 21-25, 25-22
3) Florida def. Auburn 22-25, 25-10, 25-16, 25-22
5) Nebraska def. Northwestern 25-13, 25-20, 25-21
6) Kentucky def. Arkansas 25-16, 25-17, 25-23
12) Washington def. Arizona 25-16, 25-19, 25-17
13) USC def. 24) Oregon 25-19, 25-16, 19-25, 25-17
16) Purdue lost to Michigan, 25-23, 22-25, 30-28, 25-20
19) UCLA def. Oregon State 31-29, 25-17, 25-19
20) Wichita State def. Memphis 25-18, 25-10, 25-15
24) Oregon lost to USC 19-25, 16-25, 25-19, 17-25

In the rankings
Hawaii is 39 in NCAA RPI, 37 in Rich Kern, 31 in Pablo

Someone asked previous thread about matches the rest of the week
Of interest Friday with Pablo in parenthesis
Utah (13) vs. Colorado (26)
Creighton (27) vs. Villanova (72)
Kentucky (12) vs. Georgia (52)
Michigan (31) vs. Indiana (114
Louisville (28) vs. Syracuse (100)
Marquette (30) vs. Butler (45)
Wichita State (18) vs. Memphis (246)
Minnesota (7) vs. Rutgers (254)
NC State (36) vs. Wake Forest (199)
Notre Dame (34) vs. Boston College (187)
Oregon (24) vs. Oregon State (24)
Penn State (1) vs. Wisconsin (6)
Pitt (23) vs. Virginia Tech (157)
Washington (10) vs. WSU (37)
Texas (4) vs. Baylor (14)
Stanford (3) vs. Cal (85)
Colorado state (33) vs. UC Davis (122) a win by the aggies would help
Florida (5) vs. Missouri (40)
Illinois (21) vs. Ohio State (42)
Nebraska (2), Iowa (35)
Michigan State (8) vs. Indiana (114)
Penn State (1) vs. Minnesota (7)
Pitt (23) vs. Virginia (176)
Wisconsin (6) vs. Rutgers (254)
UCLA (15) vs. USC (17)
Kansas (29) vs. West Virginia (29)


  1. Big Island volleyball fan November 23, 2017 9:07 pm

    How can Oregon and Oregon State have the same ranking as 24 (listed in your parenthesis). What does Pablo mean?

    Well, if the team did not practice the last few days, how come Robyn Ah Mow didn’t take time off to visit her family in Las Vegas?

  2. noblesol November 23, 2017 10:02 pm

    Pablo is a proprietary algorithm, a ranking system. It’s not used by the NCAA, which uses RPI. Both RPI and Pablo look at results in order to rank. Pablo takes into account match sets played and set scores, as well as teams played and w/l. The Pablo algorithm over time has been adjusted to improve it, while RPI has remained the same. Neither ranking system is meant to be used for predicting future outcomes, but near the end of the season they begin to have some predictive value. Pablo arguably has more value in that regard than RPI. http://www.richkern.com/vb/Rankings/PabloFAQ.asp

  3. Big Island volleyball fan November 23, 2017 10:33 pm

    2. Thanks for your answer. So two teams can have the same Pablo rankings such as Oregon and Oregon State?

  4. KOH I NOR November 23, 2017 11:00 pm

    Coorrection, Sunrise_blue = KOH I NOR


  5. KOH I NOR November 23, 2017 11:07 pm

    Any idea who they might match up Hawai’i with in the regionals? BW obviously was settled by Hawai’i. And where?

  6. noblesol November 23, 2017 11:31 pm

    2. Pablo, like RPI, first generates a raw score. From the raw score and any adjustments made to it, comes the ranking. So if two teams wind up with the same score after adjustments, they can share the same rank. It doesn’t happen often, but it can happen.

    5. Hawaii could wind up anywhere. The beauty of Hawaii to the NCAA committee is that they so far exceed the 400 mile geography boundary guideline. They can ship Hawaii into any regional that’s short on teams that meet the geography guidelines, and where Hawaii’s RPI ranking can reasonably balance the regional seeding. That said, it’s somewhat less likely they’d ship Hawaii to the eastern half of the country, since they can usually fill those regionals with geo-local teams.

  7. noblesol November 24, 2017 12:21 am

    A couple of conference championships are up for grabs still. The results of both are of interest; they can impact Hawaii’s at-large chances. Links:

    MVC: http://mvc-sports.com/sports/2017/9/14/2017_MVCVB_Championship.aspx
    BE: http://www.bigeast.com/tournaments/?id=61

    In the MVC Championship, best scenario for Hawaii is for no AQ-bid steal from a weaker RPI team. Missouri State (Pablo 38) and UNI (39) are the #1 and #2 seeds. Illinois St. (65) is the hot team that threatens to steal the AQ.

    In the BE Championship, again, best scenario for Hawaii is for no AQ-bid steal, and for Marquette to win the BE Championship. Creighton (Pablo 27) and Marquette (30) are the #1 and #2 seeds. Villanova (72) and Butler (45) threaten to steal.

  8. H-Man November 24, 2017 3:42 am

    LSU losing to Tennessee today will help the Wahine. Another intriguing match-up today is the Oregon – Oregon St match. Will be interesting if the Ducks lost this one; would be their 5th consecutive loss late in the season.

  9. jm2375 November 24, 2017 3:20 pm

    Welcome to the Warrior ohana, Chad Giesseman!

    Website has the MVB roster up. I count 5 newcomers
    – Nathan Yung, Fr, Libero, Iolani
    – Gage Worsley, Fr, Libero, Calif
    – Jayce Ashment, Jr, S, Long Beach City College
    – Jake Meyer, Fr, MB, Calif
    – Max Rosenfeld, Fr, MB, Illinois

    I don’t see Evan LaRochelle on the roster and Colton Cowell has been moved back to OH. Tui is listed as a Senior.

  10. menehune November 24, 2017 4:42 pm

    8. H-Man, unfortunately, LSU pulled it out in five, after being down 0-2. Good chance the Wahine could have traded places with LSU in the RPI standings had LSU lost the match.

  11. noblesol November 24, 2017 5:06 pm

    LSU escapes for another day. But they have a weak resume. No top 25 wins. Top 50 wins were High Point and Auburn (2x). Auburn plays Arkansas tomorrow, if Auburn loses they probably drop out of the top 50. High Point could drop out of the top 50, and they have no more matches. LSU RPI may edge up today, but could drop back tomorrow. If Auburn wins tomorrow, that works against Hawaii’s chances. But, LSU has a loss to Baylor, so in a head to head vs. the LSU resume, Hawaii may look stronger.

  12. Cindy Luis November 24, 2017 5:13 pm

    new thread up
    just put Pablo up for argument’s sake
    Tuileta is a senior by NCAA standards this year. They likely will appeal the ‘lost year’ since he participated in fall VB ball before transfering to UH.

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