Comments on: Appealing to a Wise man https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/ Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:20:58 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Chicken Grease https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103603 Thu, 09 Feb 2012 04:20:58 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103603

kjones:
February 8th, 2012 at 11:47 am

quoting bill maher in the same paragraph as your conclusion, says it all.

Correct. Some comparisons made for a situation are simply inappropriate.

Anyway. Yeah, well, heard a bit more clearer version of what went down in San Diego. Let’s hope things work out for the team (and I’m including Wiseman).

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By: jkjones https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103602 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:47:53 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103602 quoting bill maher in the same paragraph as your conclusion, says it all.

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By: Chicken Grease https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103601 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:34:58 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103601 But, Tillman wasn’t exactly having trouble in sports, was he? Not so much for him to say, “geez, this NFL thing ain’t working. Money’s terrible. Guess I’ll go fight in the war.” He chose to go because he had a higher calling. If for no other good reason, he pretty much volunteered to go (unless this country has some kind of conscription/draft that a Grease doesn’t know about).

I really don’t think it’s fair to put Wiseman in a “parallel universe” when, again — if you brought up the subject of people his age protecting this country — you cannot discount that he would NOT immediately say, “well, my problem pales in comparison with the daily plight of the men and women of our armed services.” You know? As this blog goes on maybe he knows he did wrong. And it works both ways: maybe this situation, too, is Gibb’s wake-up call to reassess some things going forward. Wiseman acted childish, from what I understand. Does THAT mean he could not do that because of our men and women fighting overseas to protect us? No.

We all know those in harm’s way in protecting us is a great, great thing. To immediately assess what Wiseman did, directly or indirectly, as part of some [Draconian] campaign to neglect what are armed services provide us . . . I just cannot see that. It just reminds me of Bill Maher’s [paraphrasing here] say what you will about the 09/11 terrorists, but, they weren’t cowardly. # 1 about that, who gives a XXXX if the terrorist were brave or not; # 2 simply a non-sequitur.

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By: jkjones https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103600 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 19:57:27 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103600 Unfair to compare, i dont believe so. The late Pat Tillman said as much. Look, you made my point,
“…those fighting in war make my situation pale in comparison!” Trevor is pouting because he’s not getting his way. There are bigger things in life and basketball is merely a cameo example of the entire picture. Once Wiseman begins to realize how fortunate and blessed he is to have a scholarship and to be able to fulfill his dream, the sooner he will mature. His situation is all about self. And while Wiseman may believe he lives in a parallel universe, he doesnt. The realities of the world are constant reminders of the context in which we reside. What does it say of reality when UH offers free or discounted tickets to those who serve in the military. yup, the real world is right in our backyard and it doesnt take much to recognize.

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By: Chicken Grease https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103599 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:15:26 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103599

Jkjones:
February 7th, 2012 at 10:34 pm

. . . there are many kids his age risking their lives in afghanistan for far greater cause than self.

To me, this is wholly unfair to task this comparison to Wiseman. You can apply that argument against someone complaining about how the sun rises and how the sun sets. I bet if you anyone having trouble in sports (a few ego-filled exceptions noted), they’d say, “well, DUH, yeah those fighting in war make my situation pale in comparison! But, this is the situation I’m in now and yes, it’s a bit different than avoiding IEDs and bullets whizzing past my head.”

Our proud men and women serving in the great armed forces of this great nation solve problems and face dangers that are incomparable with the day-to-day of other Americans (they protect us so that we can do what we do daily, successes, failures, happineses, embarrasses, all).

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By: jkjones https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103598 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 08:34:18 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103598 trevor displayed childish behavior on the court. he needs to grow up or move on. coach took the right action and is giving wiseman an indefinite period as an opportunity to self-correct. any adult can see through this whole episode. if he cannot play under Gib–move on to another program–but dont make an a$$ of himself for all to see. he shouldnt be pampered.
there are many kids his age risking their lives in afghanistan for far greater cause than self.

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By: Chicken Grease https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103597 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:34:32 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103597 Wiseman, if you’re reading this, please pray to St. Jude (St. of difficult and desperate cases. Not meant to be funny) . . . And it’s a prayer we can all say (for our own situation[s])

St. Jude, glorious Apostle, faithful servant, and friend of Jesus
The name of the traitor has caused you to be forgotten by many
But, the church honors and invokes you universally
As the patron of difficult and desperate cases.
Pray for me, whom am so miserable
Make use, I implore you, of that particular privilege accorded to you.
To bring visible and speedy help, where help was almost despaired of.
Come to my assistance in this great need
That I may receive the consolation and help of Heaven
In all my necessities, tribulations and sufferings,
particularly [mention your request],
And that I may praise God with you and all the elect throughout eternity.
I promise you, O blessed St. Jude, to be ever mindful of this great favor,
And I will honor you as my special and powerful patron,
And encourage devotion to you.

St. Jude, pray for us and for all who honor and invoke thy aid.

Amen.

And, after, it is good to say three (3) Our Fathers, three (3) Hail Marys, and three (3) Glory Be to the Father, and to the son, and to the Holy Spirit . . .

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By: matt https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103596 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:10:24 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103596 Anyone know what the status on a couple of the recruits that almost made this year but didn’t due to poor grades? Specifically asking about Dillon Biggs and Ronnie Stevens. Thanks.

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By: rainbowbballer https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103595 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 22:21:22 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103595 Brian,
You know the players, you’ve traveled to china with them. But I wanted to touch on another player, and that player is the “Shaq”, does Shaq know how important HE is to this team. He has a rare opportunity in his career, this year is special to him, he has a chance to STUDY, the guys he will be passing and setting up for the rest of the year and NEXT year. He has to study the game films, and concentrate on where the big guys are and WHEN(no hesitations) Miah passes the ball to them and to talk to the guys, find out where they want it.
He also can make his moves to come off the other guys, med-range jump shot, go for it Shaq, look how long Muggsy Bogues played in the NBA. Studies and basketball a learning opportunity for life.

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By: Brian McInnis https://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/court-sense/appealing-to-a-wise-man/#comment-103594 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 20:29:23 +0000 http://courtsense.staradvertiserblogs.com/?p=724#comment-103594 In reply to rainbowbballer.

Rainbow,

From what I understand, Trevor’s previous academic problems are not at issue here. Acceptance of his role had increasingly been a problem, and it came to a head in the SJSU game.

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