Warrior Beat: “Stone-cold … gamer”
When asked to describe freshman quarterback Chevan Cordeiro, pass-game coordinator Craig Stutzmann said: “He’s a great kid. He’s got magic. He’s just a stone-cold frickin’ gamer.”
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OK, we know the situation. A player can redshirt if he does not play in more than four games in that season. Cordeiro has played in three games. There are two games remaining — the regular-season finale against San Diego State and the bowl game. Play him or don’t play him? Nick Rolovich said he won’t make any public comment on the matter. But after withholding Cordeiro from games to preserve the redshirt option, it would be unlikely to burn it now. Three years from now, the coaches probably would not want to look back and say: “why didn’t we redshirt Cordeiro in 2018?”
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It was an up-and-down night for the offensive line. But the intent was solid to move Kohl Levao from right tackle to center. The Warriors wanted a bigger presence in the middle of the line to boost the running attack, and Levao is indeed a big presence.
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Linebacker Penei Pavihi had a big game, amassing 13 tackles, and making two fourth-down stops, including a sack of Armani Rogers. Pavihi might have received inspiration from his mentor, Jahlani Tavai. For senior night, Tavai returned from California, where he underwent surgery for a season-ending shoulder injury last week. Tavai provided the pep talk, Pavihi provided the pop.
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Credit the defense, which allowed 10 drives of 20 yards or fewer. Sure, the defense got hurt early by UNLV’s running attack. But in the second half, defensive coordinator Corey Batoon crowded the front seven into the tackle box and dared the Rebels to throw against UH’s man-to-man coverage. The scheme worked.
Chevan was magical! For me, I was so impressed with the D stepping up and Coach Batoon’s 2nd half adjustments.
Guess we have to wait to see what happens to the QB slot. Do you build for the future or give the team it’s best chance to win? That is based on recent QB play in the last 5 games.
Start Chevan for the San Diego St game. Reward Cole by starting him in the Hawaii Bowl for his play in the first half of the season. And let them fight it out, along with Moussa, in the off-season to see who starts next season. JMO.
Totally agree with you #2 ….start Chevan vs SDSU with Moussa in relief! Save Cole for bowl game, hopefully keep all 3 engaged & let them compete for next season !!
The fight is over. Cordeiro has proved that he is the better QB at this time. And last night he proved that he is PERFECT for the run and shoot.
Cordeiro only keeps improving. McDonald. He keeps being the McDonald after the third or fourth game of the season.
So you have it absolutely wrong here—START the seemingly inconsistent possibly problem’d McDonald in a game the Warriors no longer need (that’s be o. The road at SDSU for those of you who need a primer). Let Cordeiro start Hawaii Bowl and he can keep his red shirt status too.
Time for sentimentalism is over. This is end of season. Hard, CORRECT decisions need to be made.
It’s simple.
Chevan is already having magical qualities about him …stuff legends are made of …is it the water up in Kalaepohaku? G.Medeiros sounded great as well with his rendering of star spangled banner & hawaii pono’i!!
#4, Couldn’t have said it better. You are spot on. I dont understand the folks calling for Rolo to play Chevan vs SDSU in a meaningless game, and the bowl game. Chevan for sure should play in the Hawaii Bowl.
Chev played awesome under the pressure of being down 15… Hope coach can keep it going now that we have the momentum on our side our D gave us a shot at winning being down 28-13… It was a good win…. Go Warriors!!!
Ah, Mr. Tsai. I think that should be “‘18” and not “‘08”, no?
Che7an would have been 8 in ‘08.
Wouldn’t be surprised if his arm wasn’t just as good back then, though. 🤗 🏈
And to think. Some of me posts get deleted. You’re welcome 🤗
I wish that they would SAVE Chevan’s RS year; he will then have
4 more years to play, if he wants to.
We are already bowl bound, and we are NOT in contention
for the West Div. title.
Four QB’s are available for SDSU; play them.
Cole; Jeremy (he’s from that area), Kolney Cassel, Larry T.
Whether it’s Cole or Chevan, start the quarterback who gives you the best chance to beat SDSU. I’m surprised people refer to the final game of the conference season as “meaningless.” There’s much to gain by winning at SDSU in terms of morale/confidence, recruiting and sustaining fan interest. The bowl game, on the other hand, is a reward.
Now, is it worth burning Chevan’s redshirt? I dunno. That’s a decision for the coaches and the Cordeiro family to make.
If you need a measuring stick to see who brings Kids and future fans to Aloha Stadium for the Aloha Bowl ? It’s a no-brainer. Selling tickets for that game with the attraction of our future QB is what it’s ALL ABOUT? Having ESPN view a empty stadium is not what should happen? Live Aloha/Play Chevan.
If CC is as good as some think, then him staying through 2022 is either unlikely or not the best road to develop his QB skill set— the reality of today’s D1 landscape is that with the graduate transfer option, folks are always thinking how to move up a rung —e.g. Russell Wilson. If Rolo thinks he is the guy right now, play him.
If you want Chevan Cordeiro to be the starting QB in the Hawaii Bowl, you play him this week. I don’t mind if Cole McDonald starts against the Aztecs, but the argument is to treat the last regular season game as a meaningless one and preserve his redshirt season.
This is the reason you start him against SDSU.
There is already a 28-day interim period between the season finale and the Hawaii Bowl. By McDonald starting, he will get the majority of the reps. Cordeiro, in essence, will be holding a clipboard for 34 days.
A non-conference game is a meaningless game. You can make the argument that Coach Rolovich should have sat Cole against the Cougars. This game is important. With a win over the Aztecs, Hawaii can finish third in the Pacific side of the MWC. Finishing fourth means finishing next-to-last place. (San Jose State and UNLV will probably lose their games against Fresno State and Nevada, respectively.)
The game is on national television. ESPN U counts. McDonald could surprise us and return to form. But if Cordeiro plays like he did in the fourth quarter, don’t you think potential recruits watching the game would want to play with him?
I don’t want to get into a feud with anyone.
Hawaii is going to a bowl game.
This is a good problem to have.
mr. boolakanaka- Does the redshirt rule still apply if you play four consecutive games to end the season?
If you need a measuring stick to see who brings in the attendance of Kids and Future Fans of the game to Aloha Stadium for the Aloha Bowl it’s a no-brainer.
Previously, players were given five years to complete four seasons of eligibility – meaning one of those seasons had to be spent without participating in any games, often during a student-athlete’s first year on campus—but not entirely the situation.
The same four-in-five timeline exists, only with a catch: Players can now participate in up to four games in a season and still retain that year of eligibility—those four games can be at any point of the season.
Starting Chevan Cordeiro at the San Diego State game is a good idea. Also a good idea is starting him at the Hawai’i bowl.
Hawai’i defense will be a big factor in the San Diego State game. So offense also must be on. Start Chevan Cordeiro. And use the split rights and one wide left setup. One lone running back. It worked. It will work again.
Split wide rights and one wide left, and one lone rb will work again for Cordeiro. A new look. 21-17 Hawai’i win in San Diego State.
Save his redshirt year and give him that extra year! Utilize Cole, and if needed Moussa, Cassel, Larry!
At the Hawai’i Bowl, it will be packed. Since it is not on x-mas eve day, the crowd will show up. 33,245 i predict on the attendance. More than usual.
It won’t reach 45,000 in attendance. Hawaii didn’t win the MWC. Hawai’i Bowl 2018
MWC is below the PAC 12. Which is above the big sky conference, Sun Belt, and Possibly the Mid-America conference.
Pac 12
MWC
Sun belt
Big Sky conference
Mid-America conference
In that descending order. So as you can see, MWC is pretty good. Not as good though as p5 conferences.
I know I am beating a dead horse, but I too feel that this upcoming game is important. We have to prove to ourselves that we can beat a fbs team with a winning record. It just harder this time because we are away, but if we want to g o to a bowl game with real thoughts of winning, we need to prove to ourselves that we can beat a team with a winning record. It can be done as UNLV has proven, we just need to do it also. This is a big game for our team and we need to prepare accordingly. It can be done.
Start Justin Uahinui at SDSU. He lit it up in the scout bowl. If people consider it a meaningless game, then reward that bruddah. Then start Cordeiro in the Hawaii Bowl so he can start his run.
firstest — we left the game into the 4th quarter when McDonald started and threw the interception — however, there was a sense that something would happen after the stout defensive effort in the 3rd quarter — and, there was a restlessness among the fans — like, something was brewing — its’ the feeling — it’s the intuition.
2nd, we listened to 1420 all the way home yelling and cheering in the car — also, when we got home and listened to the last TD by Ursua and as the final seconds counted down — what a heck of a end half by the DEFENSE!!! and kudos, to #33 who played lights out after the debacle during the Utah State game of looking lost, out of position, and trying to arm-tackle the RBs as they went
running by — one could feel the “electricity” from the remaining fans — like all those games gone by — not even close to 43,000 fans, but the noise, cheering, fans standing, jumping up and down, waving towels — oh, the good ole times of yester year!!!
KITV sports says HAWAII vs FAU OR LA TECH in the Hawaii Bowl — waiting for MWC confirmation before buying tickets.
Chevan’s status? how important is it to preserve his “red-shirt” year? QB’s returning? QB’s committed? and lastly, what will Mililani QB decide? which is more important — SDSU or the Hawaii Bowl?
Northern Arizona’s head coach is named Jack Murphy.
That’s a good omen, right?
The Padres’ old stomping ground? The bullpen was in the field of play. If a ball went under the bench, it was a ground-rule double. It was so stupid.
The San Diego Padres are historically for the most part, terrible. SDSU only beat SJSU by three. They’re not that good.
24.
Hawaii has a chance to win nine games.
Secretariat.
RIP.
Which one was Glenn Medeiros?
Hawai’i vs. Lousiana Tech in the Hawai’i Bowl. San Diego State is going nowhere.
Everybody love the second string QB. But keep in mind, one game doesn’t make a player. That BYU freshman that had a career game have came down to earth. After torching UH, I believe that kid only produced 6 points the following week over NIU.
The starting QB for UNLV was the starter that beat San Diego State. Look at what happened to him against UH.
All I’m saying is not to overreact and fall in love with a player over one game. Consistency is what make a great QB and so far Chevan is not there yet. Give him next year to prove it.
Same with all position players. Notice the hype on Dayton Furuta is no longer there. Opponents are smart on how to tackle him and he is no longer putting up big numbers.
As for red shirting it’s going to be up to Cordeiro and no one else.
Bowl Bound, we’ll need the 3 extra weeks of practice for sure!!!
Be true to the RnS, no more RPO (we r not the Eagles) or spread option (not Oregon with Mariota) since the “in” offense that everybody wants to use. Last year Rolo stayed with Dru too long! Chevan is the man, give him the keys already. Best player plays, starting with San Diego St. game. He does well, play him in bowl game. We are not playing for next year, go Warriors!
I say you give the decision to Chevan. If he wants to play then play him. Wins are important for recruiting, the experience he will gain is important for next year, and we will still have him for 3 more seasons regardless. Wins bring bodies in the seats and money to the program. We need to pack the house for the Bowl game!
Watching Chevan run the offense you could really see the mechanisms of how the RnS works. The key was Furuta, giving him enough time to move the safeties with his “eyes”. That allowed the play to develop so the receivers could beat their defenders to an “area”. Different than how Cole functions.
Cole’s rhythm (lately) depends a lot on timing. His pass has to be at an area at a certain time during the route. Hard to do against 8 man coverage, especially shallow middle. Smaller receivers need to work toward space or they will get “pounded”. Seems like Chevan reacts to the receivers route allowing them to work toward space, Cole reacts to the coverages route usually throwing them into contact. Can fix. Throw less shallow middle I think. Use a rhythmic 3 step drop. More deep quarter and hashmark to sideline mid-shallow throws. Chevan struggles throwing shallow middle as well (mostly because receivers are so small). Nobody’s fault. Just don’t waste time throwing where you really “shouldn’t”.
I think Corderio needs to preserve his redshirt status so Cole should start vs San Diego St, Moussa should get a lot of reps too. Hawaii Bowl should have Corderio as starter, Moussa getting some series, and Cole in “Special” packages as QB and some packages as WR/slot. My opinion. Gotta look to the future. Was hard for Saban to do so it’s hard for a “nicer guy” like Rolo to do. But…… it’s best for everyone…. fans, program, marketing, the Team, and believe it or not, for Cole too.
To be honest the problem is not with McDonald as much as it is with the size of his targets. If Cole has two good sized H/TE’s rotated in with Ursua, Byrd and Ward then this offense would look like 60-70% of NFL offenses. The personnel is wrong for this offense. Imagine how many drives could have been extended if Unga and Greely worked the middle making catches in heavy traffic, second level blocking for Reed and Holly (not Furuta in pro style RPO) then softening up the secondary for the “fast guys” to attack in any area. Would be efficient. Not Cole’s fault.
Conversely, with Corderio (or Moussa) in a true RnS the personnel is perfect. You could see it Saturday. The TE/H would be useless for Chevan. Furuta is perfect fit for true RnS as well. Reed would have to be slot (he would be awesome there) and Holly would need to get a little bigger, stronger and better at blocking then he can be Alex Green Jr. Maybe next year Rolo can run both. Just apply the right personnel. So Awesome if can. Imagine what is possible.
Great Morning All!
Win NOW!
Craps…
If Chevan Cordeiro redshirts, he’ll be around in 2002 to face Vanderbilt, Western Kentucky, Wisconsin, and Duquense.
Bobby Petrino is such a mercenary. Western Kentucky gives the guy a second chance and he bails on them after the first season.
Back in the day, some guy ran into my shoulder and I found that it hurt like heck to throw overhand.
So I started tossing underhand.
I suppose I coulda also thrown back hand…
…Just saying
heheheh
2022
Pomai,
59 – 28 Akamai Okole
Lane Kiffin’s squad needs to beat Charlotte at home to become bowl-eligible.
Louisiana Tech can finish the season 8-4 with a win over Western Kentucky.
I guess Hawaii should root for Florida Atlantic on Saturday. Well, that’s me being didactic.
Would you rather play the better team(Louisiana Tech) or the more beatable team(Florida Atlantic)?
I’d rather play neither…One is an old-WAC foe and the other we played a few years back. I’d like to see someone new.
I’m not anti Chevan but …
1. He had the advantage of momentum generated by the defense.
2. Ward made two unbelievable catches … after consistently dropping balls thrown by Cole in previous games.
3. Even our Cassell could have hit Ursua on that last “switch move” TD … the guy was wide open because the safety hesitated too long.
Momentum is a great thing … but will Ward catch those passes from Chevan that he dropped previously when Cole hit him in the hands. Will the o-line start run-blocking against three man fronts.
JMO but there’s more to that comeback than just Chevan.
To me, it’s all about depth in every position. Each player is important in each position. The coaches demonstrated the ability to make the adjustments needed to make all the falling tetris pieces fit together by the end of the game.
To me, a unified team is a winning team. The result becomes greater than the sum of all the individual skills. To me, that was the breakthrough last Saturday. I hope the coaches and the team are able to continue this winning solution for the last two games of this season. I know I want to see it happen at the Hawaii Bowl when I’m finally sitting in a seat in Aloha Stadium again!
IMUA! Live Aloha, Play Warrior! Let’s Go, Bows!
It was good to see us beat unlv, seems like they beat us almost ever year now we need to gear San Diego State.
UH not a lock for the Hawaii Bowl per MW ,reported by Bobby as of awhile ago.
UH has the worst overall record of 6 MW bowl eligible teams curremtly. SDSU game may not be “meaningless”..
But the Hawaii Bowl would lose attendance without UH playing.
The coaches and players have a lot more info about things than any of us do. Let’s not forget that Cole’s play changed AFTER the SJSU game. He might be playing hurt, therefore less effective than he had been in the first 7 games.
As for Chevan, he’s been nothing short of phenomenal as a back-up. Let’s hope we can keep him on campus for as many years as possible. Stone cold gamer, red hot QB. He’s got a great future with us. Having two or three QBs who can win games is a great situation for any team.
The Warriors are young – let’s build for the future. Aloha Stadium was ROCKING on Saturday. See everybody at the Hawai’i Bowl!
GO WARRIORS!!!
44. Would we have the same winning result if Chevan was not brought into the game?
Great comeback. This was an exciting game, not a great game. A great game would have been 59 – 0. However, the future is bright. Just one senior starter on offense. My $.02 on Chevan. He should play if he gives the team the best chance to win, RS year be damned. He probably should have been inserted a few games earlier, making the RS discussion moot. I sit behind the team, and they were dead until Chevan went in. I think the players “know” who the better QB is, and their play and effort on the field reflected their feelings. One big caveat. Chevan had time to throw. UNLV’s d-line was not good enough to put pressure on the QB rushing just 3 – 4 men. No blitzes or stunts. Finally, FYI, if you sit behind the team, don’t heckle the players, you are sitting among family and friends. They don’t take too kindly, people making oft-putting remarks about their ohana.
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